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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Since when was the military not part of the government?

    "Reagan's Liberal Legacy" by Joshua Green

    According to this:

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    Reagan's net cuts are chump change compared to other presidents.
    Your inability to tell the difference between military spending and entitlement spending is amusing.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Reagan didn't cut domestic spending. It actually went up under him.

    The Free Market: The Sad Legacy of Ronald Reagan
    Wow. You must have been absent during your American government class. Allow me to refresh your memory...

    The Congress has plenary authority to appropriate funds.

    This concludes our lesson for the day.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Allowing people to keep more of their own money isn't liberal. Read the Cato analysis of the Reagan years as it dispels a lot of the liberal myths including yours.
    He didnt let you keep more of your money


    He defered your taxes to a future date

    Remember that unless you default all debts have to be payed back.

    Government debt are just taxes that have to be paid in the future. As government debt as % of GDP increased during the Reagan admin, the amount of taxes that will be needed to be paid in the future increased just to pay off debt

    Just as the debt that the Obama admin is incuring now will have to be paid back in the future through taxes
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    He didnt let you keep more of your money
    He defered your taxes to a future date
    This isnt necessarily the case at all.

    It -would- be the case if spending never drops below revenues, allowing for the debt to be paid down, but this is not a certainty -- indeed, we can choose to do this any time we want, just as easily as we choose not to.

    And so, tax increases are in no way a future necessity.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    He didnt let you keep more of your money


    He defered your taxes to a future date

    Remember that unless you default all debts have to be payed back.

    Government debt are just taxes that have to be paid in the future. As government debt as % of GDP increased during the Reagan admin, the amount of taxes that will be needed to be paid in the future increased just to pay off debt

    Just as the debt that the Obama admin is incuring now will have to be paid back in the future through taxes

    LOL, stay in Canada as your knowledge of this country is lacking.

    My personal take home pay increased during the Reagan years and I used that money to pay down debt. Reagan debt was 1.7 trillion dollars, today Obama will add double that in 2 years. I will take the 80's any day over what we have now, 2.6 trillion debt with a 14.5 trillion dollar economy vs. a 13 trillion dollar debt with a 14.5 trillion dollar economy? Hmmm, wonder which one is better?

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    This isnt necessarily the case at all.

    It -would- be the case if spending never drops below revenues, allowing for the debt to be paid down, but this is not a certainty -- indeed, we can choose to do this any time we want, just as easily as we choose not to.

    And so, tax increases are in no way a future necessity.
    No you just increasing debt so that your childern will have to pay for it.
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    No you just increasing debt so that your childern will have to pay for it.
    It seems that debt only matters when it is created during a Republican Administration. Debt that Obama is creating doesn't matter to liberals nor is the 1.3 trillion that was added to the debt when Clinton was President. Obama debt will exceed the 8 year Reagan debt this year, after only two years in office.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    really? you're forgetting that right after reagan left office bush raised taxes, out of necessity.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It seems that debt only matters when it is created during a Republican Administration. Debt that Obama is creating doesn't matter to liberals nor is the 1.3 trillion that was added to the debt when Clinton was President. Obama debt will exceed the 8 year Reagan debt this year, after only two years in office.
    I am not defending Clinton's debt or Obama's debt

    I am not defending the debt by Reagan, unlike some
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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    No you just increasing debt so that your childern will have to pay for it.
    Well, it that's your argument, then he DID let -me- keep more of my money in a manner that in no way necessitates that my children or grand-children will have to pay more.

    Like I said - you're only right if we choose to neve rlet revenue exceed spending, at whoch point there's no way to put the blame on Reagan.

    Oh, and just for perspective - The Obama ran more in deficits in just His first year than RWR in 8; the INCREASE in entitlement spending in The Obama's first year exceeded the TOTAL spending in half or RWR's years.

    So really -- trying to pin any sort of future woe on Reagan is just silly.

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