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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    WOW so Reagan more than DOUBLED the debt. No wonder Bush 41 had to raise taxes and we turned into a debtor nation.
    Wow? Yes, Reagan with the "HELP" of a Democrat Controlled House doubled the debt. Obama with the "HELP" of a Democrat Controlled CONGRESS created more debt in two years than Reagan did in 8.

    Seems hard for someone like you to understand. Not surprising.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

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    Wow? Yes, Reagan with the "HELP" of a Democrat Controlled House doubled the debt. Obama with the "HELP" of a Democrat Controlled CONGRESS created more debt in two years than Reagan did in 8.

    Seems hard for someone like you to understand. Not surprising.
    Yeah I knew it is always some one else's (the evil democrats) fault

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    EXCELLENT point
    reagan tripled the size of the national debt (290%) while Obama increased it by 22% ... recognizing much of Obama's expenditure was spent stabilizing a broken exonomy left by his republican predecessor

    i'm not laughing WITH you
    You should be laughing at yourself, real dollars not percentage is what we pay debt service on. What was the debt service on the 2.6 trillion dollars vs. the debt service on the 13 trillion dollars. Sounds like a concept you have trouble understanding.

    Broken economy? What exactly did the Democrat Congress do from January 2007 to the present to fix it?

    You buy what you are told yet this President hasn't offered any accurate predictions or assessments yet. "never let a good crisis go to waste" is the motto of this President and sheep like you buy the rhetoric.

    This economy wasn't broken nearly as bad as the economy when Reagan took over. we didn't have 20+% interest rates, we didn't have double digit inflation thus a terrible misery index. We also didn't have kids living in the past like we do today while always complaining about the past.

    What I find amazing is kids today that weren't old enough to know what was going on in the 80's still claim to be experts on the 80's. All to divert from what is happening right now.

    Putting the records side by side, Reagan vs. Obama is there any doubt which record the majority in this country would want? Wonder why it is that the Obama polls are plumeting with those incredible results you seem to think exist today?

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yeah I knew it is always some one else's (the evil democrats) fault
    You don't seem to have a clue how our govt. works. Please stop embarrassing yourself. we do not elect a king. The Reagan record is absolutely incredible since it is based upon an economic record generated with a Democrat controlled House of Representatives.

    Notice that you continue to ignore the factual record of Reagan shown in BEA.gov. Not surprising as you play upon the ignorance of others just like you.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You should be laughing at yourself, real dollars not percentage is what we pay debt service on. What was the debt service on the 2.6 trillion dollars vs. the debt service on the 13 trillion dollars. Sounds like a concept you have trouble understanding.
    i laugh at anyone who posts a 290% increase in spending being better than a 22% increase
    must be your recollection of reaganomics speaking

    Broken economy? What exactly did the Democrat Congress do from January 2007 to the present to fix it?
    i remember those on your side INSISTING that the fundamentals of the economy are sound
    also recall that the republicans kept telling us that there was no "official" recession based on the data
    all the while, unregulated banking was boiling the economy, and the republican solution was to bail out the very monied interests which caused the problem. your folks tranferred the taxes of the wage earner to replace the lost wealth of the rich
    only fools and simpletons haven't figured that one out yet

    You buy what you are told yet this President hasn't offered any accurate predictions or assessments yet. "never let a good crisis go to waste" is the motto of this President and sheep like you buy the rhetoric.
    and i see you have neglected to offer up an accurate prediction of the president's policies in his absence. that's right, your side prefers to monday morning quarterback. without no clue about cause and effect, you wait until you see something you hope you won't like and then grouse about it
    'lack of substance' is the term that comes to mind when describing such pontificators

    This economy wasn't broken nearly as bad as the economy when Reagan took over. we didn't have 20+% interest rates, we didn't have double digit inflation thus a terrible misery index. We also didn't have kids living in the past like we do today while always complaining about the past.
    you mean that economy that was broken by the oil cartel. the one which resulted because of the reagan deal with the iranians to keep our citizens hostage to assure the outcome of the national election. you do recall they were released as soon as he was elected. read up on iran contra and see how your ronnie raygun was behind drug dealing with the money obtained by selling weapons to the iranians
    and the misery index was at its apex during the reagan era. if you are going to use a term, it's a good idea to understand what it means

    What I find amazing is kids today that weren't old enough to know what was going on in the 80's still claim to be experts on the 80's. All to divert from what is happening right now.
    that is not my perspective. i was on the line trying to help small businesses survive the 20% prime rate during ronnie's reign of stupidity. reagan decided it was then a good time to pull the plug on direct SBA lending to the small business community ... when banks were offering floating rates of 20% prime plus 2.75%. misery index indeed

    Putting the records side by side, Reagan vs. Obama is there any doubt which record the majority in this country would want? Wonder why it is that the Obama polls are plumeting with those incredible results you seem to think exist today?
    they only compared in one respect. both could be eloquent on stage. but Obama is looking to fix problems. reagan could not break **** fast enough. i was there. as a liquidator of federal business loans i dealt with the results of his decisions. which is why i find your posts on this matter so clueless
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't seem to have a clue how our govt. works. Please stop embarrassing yourself. we do not elect a king. The Reagan record is absolutely incredible since it is based upon an economic record generated with a Democrat controlled House of Representatives.

    Notice that you continue to ignore the factual record of Reagan shown in BEA.gov. Not surprising as you play upon the ignorance of others just like you.
    YAWN okay what ever you say. But now your scripted diatribes are getting way to boring. plonk

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    justabubba;1058686824]i laugh at anyone who posts a 290% increase in spending being better than a 22% increase
    must be your recollection of reaganomics speaking
    Look dealing with you is an example of Glenn Beck's book, Arguing with Idiots. Please stop making a fool out of yourself and understand the difference between percentage change and actual dollars. What would a 290% increase in the current debt be?


    i remember those on your side INSISTING that the fundamentals of the economy are sound
    also recall that the republicans kept telling us that there was no "official" recession based on the data
    all the while, unregulated banking was boiling the economy, and the republican solution was to bail out the very monied interests which caused the problem. your folks tranferred the taxes of the wage earner to replace the lost wealth of the rich
    only fools and simpletons haven't figured that one out yet
    And I remember Barney Franks claiming that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae being sound and a good investment long term.

    I keep remembering when the recession began, December 2007 and who was in charge of the Congress thus the purse strings.

    I remember during the Bush years when the stock market went over 14000 and the claims we were in a recession.

    You have a selective memory that actually ignores results and what generated those results.

    and i see you have neglected to offer up an accurate prediction of the president's policies in his absence. that's right, your side prefers to monday morning quarterback. without no clue about cause and effect, you wait until you see something you hope you won't like and then grouse about it
    'lack of substance' is the term that comes to mind when describing such pontificators
    Obviously you don't read much, do a search on my posts and you will get accurate predictions on my part as to exactly who this President is and what he would do. I told anyone who would listen who we elected but as usual only rhetoric from Obama is believed in spite of the fact that all that rhetoric is lies.

    you mean that economy that was broken by the oil cartel. the one which resulted because of the reagan deal with the iranians to keep our citizens hostage to assure the outcome of the national election. you do recall they were released as soon as he was elected. read up on iran contra and see how your ronnie raygun was behind drug dealing with the money obtained by selling weapons to the iranians
    and the misery index was at its apex during the reagan era. if you are going to use a term, it's a good idea to understand what it means
    You sure have a hatred for Reagan and the question remains why? What is it that Reagan did that hurt you or your family. My bet is you are like so many here, someone too young to know what was going on in the 80's?

    You seem to need that nanny state as well as a President to protect you from yourself and poor choices you make. Only a liberal would ignore the misery index and ignore the affects of Reaganomics. The people spoke in 1984, what were the results of that election?


    that is not my perspective. i was on the line trying to help small businesses survive the 20% prime rate during ronnie's reign of stupidity. reagan decided it was then a good time to pull the plug on direct SBA lending to the small business community ... when banks were offering floating rates of 20% prime plus 2.75%. misery index indeed
    Ronald Reagan didn't create 20% interest rates or double digit home mortgage rates, Carter economic policy did. Reagan took office in January 1981, implemented the tax cut policy in the fall of 1981 that went into effect 1982. The elections of 1984 show the results of those tax cuts. Ask your parents how the tax cuts affected them?

    they only compared in one respect. both could be eloquent on stage. but Obama is looking to fix problems. reagan could not break **** fast enough. i was there. as a liquidator of federal business loans i dealt with the results of his decisions. which is why i find your posts on this matter so clueless
    Only in the liberal world would one believe Obama is solving problems. Obama is creating more victims to exploit. Only in the liberal world would someone believe that govt. is the answer to everyone else's problems when the reality is govt. doesn't solve individual problems, it creates them.

    It looks to me like you are clueless. Name for me a prediction that Obama has made that is accurate?

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    YAWN okay what ever you say. But now your scripted diatribes are getting way to boring. plonk
    Then don't respond. Doesn't really matter though since you offer nothing of substance.

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    Re: Was Reagan a fiscal/small government conservative?

    Quote Originally Posted by jacksbrat View Post
    I have no idea what this chart is supposed to show. I prefer BEA.gov information that shows the doubling of GDP, doubling of Govt. revenue and almost 20 million jobs created after taking over an economy with 20 plus interest rates, double digit inflation, and rising unemployment.

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