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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    True.

    I personally think that, with enough safeguards to protect against misuse, it could be a greatly helpful development.

    But there would still be instances of misuse...

    I suppose it's a case of "lesser of two evils". I think developing it would be the lesser. One of the reasons I think so is that, eventually, someone is going to develop it anyway. So it would be better to have the ability to repair/counter any negative effects.
    Unfortunately genetically engineered humans would be the providence of those that could afford it. It would be all to likely that it would bring about a Nietzschean Ubermensch based on social status and wealth. Those born with a silver spoon will now also have "golden genes" as well.

    moral issues aside, potential social issues and a new stratification of humans and "superhuman" overlords are the potential ramifications that are most bothersome in my opinion.
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Unfortunately genetically engineered humans would be the providence of those that could afford it. It would be all to likely that it would bring about a Nietzschean Ubermensch based on social status and wealth. Those born with a silver spoon will now also have "golden genes" as well.

    moral issues aside, potential social issues and a new stratification of humans and "superhuman" overlords are the potential ramifications that are most bothersome in my opinion.
    But, if the possibility for gene-engineered humans (not to mention other things) exists, it would seem inevitable that someone would attempt what you fear, no matter the preventative measures put in place. I would much rather full understanding of the processes involved be developed than not, in the case of such occurring.
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    By this I mean, if we humans develop the ability to manipulate our own Genes/DNA to the point that we can make changes (for good or bad), would this be contrary to any given arbitrary "Devine Entity Plan" or "Natural Evolutionary Process?"

    It seems to me that it could be, in the first case, simply part of said plan, or in the second case, part of the "Evolutionary Process."

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    It seems so from where I'm standing, but only God himself could say for sure.

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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It seems so from where I'm standing, but only God himself could say for sure.
    Perhaps.

    But if so, what do we lowly humans do, without such omniscience on the subject?
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    genetic engineering should be limited to medicinal uses.

    however im sure governments would like to put it to military use.
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps.

    But if so, what do we lowly humans do, without such omniscience on the subject?
    I don't know...go to work, keep pay'n the bills I guess.

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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    By this I mean, if we humans develop the ability to manipulate our own Genes/DNA to the point that we can make changes (for good or bad), would this be contrary to any given arbitrary "Devine Entity Plan" or "Natural Evolutionary Process?"

    It seems to me that it could be, in the first case, simply part of said plan, or in the second case, part of the "Evolutionary Process."

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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I don't know...go to work, keep pay'n the bills I guess.
    I mean if the ability to manipulate human genes is developed, how do we attempt to preven misuse? Or do we try at all?
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But, if the possibility for gene-engineered humans (not to mention other things) exists, it would seem inevitable that someone would attempt what you fear, no matter the preventative measures put in place. I would much rather full understanding of the processes involved be developed than not, in the case of such occurring.
    I do agree that it would seem inevitable, and actually made no claims on what we should or should not do, or if we should try to delay, or thwart genetic tinkering.

    There are a ton of scenarios and questions this brings up, and for me, none of the questions are based on whether or not it is contrary to some grander pre ordained design, whether it be God or evolution.

    I am worried that unless we proceed with EXTREME caution the ramifications could be way more than we bargained for, but that never stops us, and so long as we are fractured into 200 or so nations even if most decide to ban all research and all manipulation, someone somewhere will go full steam ahead.

    What to do and how to deal with this?? I cannot tell you, but I fear the potential consequences if we thrust forward in typical human fashion with reckless abandon. Even proceeding with extreme caution is fraught with peril.
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    Re: Would Gene-Engineering Humans be contrary to "God's Plan" or "Evolution?"

    Would it be contrary to evolution? Yes, but our medical science has already done this. Physically we are passing on weak genetic material because they are not dying off.

    As for God, I doubt it. He already knows the future so that would make it part of his plan.
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