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Are Politics and Religion becoming one and the same?

Are Politics and Religion becoming one and the same?

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socialism is a faith based ideology. So is Obamunism. It is a belief system incapable of rational evaluation.
 
TurtleDude said:
socialism is a faith based ideology. So is Obamunism. It is a belief system incapable of rational evaluation.
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You had to go there, didn't you.

Now my precious thread will decend into partisan bickering...:(

Excellent. :devil:
 
new coup for you said:
no I think a lot of the bible has a lot of very strongly presented pro-proletarian attitudes. Christians should be Communists. But they tend to focus on the 5% of the bible regarding genital conduct rather then the 95% regarding helping people.
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You obviously don't know much about communism or Chrsitians to make that statement.

Communism is directly opposed to the idea's of Christ. He was no communist, and did not teach anything like it. The Bible was not meant as any kind of governmental or political philosophy like communism, or any ism for that matter. His law is one of spiritual guidence, not political guidence.

We are taught to be charitable and obey the law. We are taught to be humble and not prideful. Most importantly we are taught to love God above all things and to love our fellow man and treat him as we would like to be treated. Nothing even remotely communist in that.
 
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I have always believed that politics and religion are absolutely inseparable. If you truly believe your religion, it should reflect in your voting. For this reason, it is absolutely incomprehensible to me as to why a "Christian" would hold liberal political views. A Christian that believes in gay marriage, abortion, or socialistic policies is not a Christian at all. Period.
 
Blackdog said:
Most importantly we are taught to love God above all things and to love our fellow man and treat him as we would like to be treated.
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This means that most of the political spectrum could be applied. It all hinges on how one would like to be treated.
 
digsbe said:
I'd say it's sad that politics and religion are growing apart. The poison of secularism is corroding morality and religion has now become disdained by the government. PC has become increasingly anti-Christian and pro-everythingelse. People who hold political belief's because of religious faith are now being branded as ignorant. Secularism is a good thing, but when it becomes poisoned and it becomes anti-faith then there is where problems start to appear.
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Yet every study shows the more secular a nation the better it sticks with morality. Your just playing the "everyone picks on the poor christian majority" card here.



Religion and politics have been entwined since well before Christianity. Most cultures were lead by religious leaders at some point.
 
The Mark said:
This means that most of the political spectrum could be applied. It all hinges on how one would like to be treated.
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I absolutely agree.
 
Dogger807 said:
Yet every study shows the more secular a nation the better it sticks with morality. Your just playing the "everyone picks on the poor christian majority" card here.
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I would like to see some of these studies? Think you could post an example?

Dogger807 said:
Religion and politics have been entwined since well before Christianity. Most cultures were lead by religious leaders at some point.
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Very true.
 
Blackdog said:
I would like to see some of these studies? Think you could post an example?



Very true.
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they've been the subject of more than one thread and I'm sure you could google them.... I'm not bashing chritianity or ant religion at this point just pointing out the blatent falsehood of the previous post
 
K-1 said:
I have always believed that politics and religion are absolutely inseparable. If you truly believe your religion, it should reflect in your voting. For this reason, it is absolutely incomprehensible to me as to why a "Christian" would hold liberal political views. A Christian that believes in gay marriage, abortion, or socialistic policies is not a Christian at all. Period.
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Now that's just stupid. The Bible doesn't mention ANY of those issues.
 
Dogger807 said:
they've been the subject of more than one thread and I'm sure you could google them.... I'm not bashing chritianity or ant religion at this point just pointing out the blatent falsehood of the previous post
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I did not think you were. I would still like to see one of these studies. I would not even know what to google.

So if you could?
 
Kandahar said:
Now that's just stupid. The Bible doesn't mention ANY of those issues.
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True, but it does condemn people of the same sex having sexual relations. Fortunately it is not a political guide, but spiritual. So even though a Christian should not condone it, they are free in government to vote their conscience.

As for abortion even the Israelites did not believe the fetus was human until after the first few months. Even after that the soul did not enter until the head broke through during birth. So I will differ to them as the experts on that one as far as the Hebrew God goes.

Part of the problem with abortion is the KJV translation of the Bible saying "thou shall not kill" when actually it was "thou shall not murder."

So a Christian in my eyes could support abortion in the first trimester, but that's just me.
 
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Kandahar said:
Now that's just stupid. The Bible doesn't mention ANY of those issues.
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Evidently, you are one of those "Christians" I referred to earlier.
 
K-1 said:
Evidently, you are one of those "Christians" I referred to earlier.
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Yea because Christianity needs to be splintered even more over politics. I am certain that is what Christ, wanted for his church. :doh
 
K-1 said:
Evidently, you are one of those "Christians" I referred to earlier.
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Then please quote the passage of the Bible that says that abortion, gay marriage, or socialism is wrong.
 
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Dogger807 said:
Yet every study shows the more secular a nation the better it sticks with morality. Your just playing the "everyone picks on the poor christian majority" card here.
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I am still waiting for evidence of the the studies that show this?
 
I dont think GOD, intended for," Ralph Reed and the republican party , to make the Churches( The Body of Christ) A political action commitee.
 
Kandahar said:
Then please quote the passage of the Bible that says that abortion, gay marriage, or socialism is wrong.
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It can be found right next to the clauses in the constitution that empower the federal government to run health care, ban the possession of automatic small arms and declares abortion is a fundamental right.
 
TurtleDude said:
It can be found right next to the clauses in the constitution that empower the federal government to run health care, ban the possession of automatic small arms and declares abortion is a fundamental right.
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Relevance fail.
 
The Mark said:
Are Politics and Religion becoming one and the same?

By this I mean:

Are political positions and the support they have (in some cases) becoming more belief based than reason based?
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Excellent poll!

My opinion is yes.. clearly and totally.
 
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