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Is Global Warming a myth?

Is Global Warming a myth?


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Sunspot it as at a low which can cause a cooling.

Where have all the sunspots gone? | Science Buzz

Occasionally, intense magnetic activity in the Sun creates sunspots, dark regions on the surface of the Sun. Sunspot activity rises and falls roughly every 11 years – the last maximum was in 2001, and activity slowly fell off to zero by 2006.

And since then…almost nothing. Scientists had expected sunspot activity to start increasing by now, but it hasn’t. No one knows why, or when the cycle will pick up again.

Why is this important?

Sunspots, created by intense magnetic activity, are associated with solar flares, enormous streams of high-energy particles sent shooting out into the Solar System. These play havoc with satellites and other electronic communication. So, no sunspots in this case would be a good thing.

Solar flares also create the beautiful northern and southern lights. In this case, no sunspots is a bad thing.

Perhaps most important, sunspots seem to be an indicator of solar activity. And low activity can mean lower temperatures here on Earth. The Sun once went 50 years without producing any spots – from 1650 to 1700 – and these years were some of the coldest in recorded history. Today they are known as the little Ice Age.

Considering sun activity started falling around the beginning of the decade, yet somehow this past decade was the warmest decade on record, I seriously doubt that a (very small) increase in sun activity is the cause of the recent warming trends.
 
Perhaps most important, sunspots seem to be an indicator of solar activity. And low activity can mean lower temperatures here on Earth. The Sun once went 50 years without producing any spots – from 1650 to 1700 – and these years were some of the coldest in recorded history. Today they are known as the little Ice Age.

Could you please explain to me how changes in the magnetic field of the sun affects its rate of fusion, and energy output? I'm a tiny bit lost...
 
Could you please explain to me how changes in the magnetic field of the sun affects its rate of fusion, and energy output? I'm a tiny bit lost...

I don't know but it is generally believed by scientist it was an influence that caused the mini iceage from 1650-1700
 
There are so many holes in the theory that I'm astounded anyone can still support it, let alone suggest the case is closed.

Some quick facts:

  • 9 out of 10 temperature monitoring stations in the US are substandard.
  • The "scientists" at Hadley were manipulating data as well as the peer review process.
  • A recent analysis of sattelite temperature data actually shows a cooling period in the past twelve years.
  • Errors have been identified in NASA calculations of temperatures (1998 was not the hottest year in the US, 1934 was).
  • Michael Mann's famous hockey stick graph (as seen in Inconvenient Truth) was shown to be utter crap.
  • And much more!

Climate Audit
 
We are having record cold temperatures and snowfall in history across the United States so the question begs to be asked...
Question should be "Is manmade global warming a myth?"
 
we are having record cold temperatures and snowfall in history across the united states so the question begs to be asked...

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We are having record cold temperatures and snowfall in history across the United States so the question begs to be asked...
It snows in winter omfg global warming no exist! In australia its 95 oh noes global warming. It gets dark when the sun goes down armageddon. Anyway winters may have been more severe but are now shorter. Extreme weather patterns happen every 20 years back in Charles Dickens time it was on average every five years. Also there is a thing about Global warming, its a global occurance and not confined to the US. In Vancouver where the Olympics is being held theyve had lighter snow than theyve had in years. Seattle is having record warm temperatures.
 
We are having record cold temperatures and snowfall in history across the United States so the question begs to be asked...

First, the term isn't global warming, it's climate change. Global warming seems to give some less-than-bright folks the idea that the temperatures are warming up EVERYWHERE, when in reality, they are just warming up on AVERAGE. That means that in some places, it's much warmer than usual, and in other places, it may even be colder than usual.

There is a correlation between the warming trends and the record snowfall.


Snowpocalypse and the Climate Change Debate: Blogs, Scientists, Facts Defend "Global Warming" As Blizzard Rages - The Human Condition Blog - Newsweek.com

(We prefer the term "global weirding," as suggested by Thomas Friedman earlier this winter.)

Time magazine, meanwhile, notes that warming may be part of a longer-lasting trend:

But as far as winter storms go, shouldn't climate change make it too warm for snow to fall? Eventually that is likely to happen—but probably not for a while. In the meantime, warmer air could be supercharged with moisture and, as long as the temperature remains below 32°F, it will result in blizzards rather than drenching winter rainstorms. And while the mid-Atlantic has borne the brunt of the snowfall so far this winter, areas near lakes may get hit even worse. As global temperatures have risen, the winter ice cover over the Great Lakes has shrunk, which has led to even more moisture in the atmosphere and more snow in the already hard-hit Great Lakes region, according to a 2003 study in the Journal of Climate.
 
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And, even if global warming weren't occurring, there are dozens of reasons why we should wean off of our unhealthy reliance on foreign oil and fossil fuels...

1. Subsidizing & funding Islamist regimes/terrorists
2. Having to pay for expensive foreign wars to protect our access to oil.
3. Stretching our military too thin as a result
4. Adding to our global trade imbalance.
5. Worsening air quality.
6. Increasing lung and health conditions as a result of the above, leading to increased healthcare costs.
7. The necessity for drilling for oil off of fragile coastlines in areas that are economically reliant on tourism.
8. Drilling in the gulf is a risky proposition given the area's propensity for hurricanes.
9. Borrowing trillions has made us financially reliant upon the Chinese, which could have major economic implications down the road, not to mention political ones.

That's just a start...

Are people really so dense that they want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that we can go on with our conspicuous consumption indefinitely with no ill effects?

Imagine where we would be economically if we hadn't borrowed trillions of dollars to pay for our recent wars...
 
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Global warming is an unproven hypothesis that has been used, by some, to advance a particular political agenda.
 
Global warming is an unproven hypothesis that has been used, by some, to advance a particular political agenda.

So, wouldn't we benefit, as a country, from reducing our reliance on fossil fuels?
 
It snows in winter omfg global warming no exist! In australia its 95 oh noes global warming. It gets dark when the sun goes down armageddon. Anyway winters may have been more severe but are now shorter. Extreme weather patterns happen every 20 years back in Charles Dickens time it was on average every five years. Also there is a thing about Global warming, its a global occurance and not confined to the US. In Vancouver where the Olympics is being held theyve had lighter snow than theyve had in years. Seattle is having record warm temperatures.

True, therefore global warming is a good thing, if it exists.....;)
 
So, wouldn't we benefit, as a country, from reducing our reliance on fossil fuels?

Not if it means using bogus science & bogus policies, ie cap & trade.....:thumbdown
Al Gore is a charlatan out to enrich himself, I'm pleased we hear so little of him these days as he hides in shame like he did after he was Bushwacked....;)
 
Not if it means using bogus science & bogus policies, ie cap & trade.....:thumbdown
Al Gore is a charlatan out to enrich himself, I'm pleased we hear so little of him these days as he hides in shame like he did after he was Bushwacked....;)

In my opinion, a lot of the politics around global warming are indeed bunk. For instance, the idea that we should subsidize China in order for them to adopt green technology is ridiculous (although, thanks to our reliance on fossil fuels that has necessitated our current interventionist position, we aren't in any position to reason with China since we owe them billions, if not trillions).

However, having said that, there is EVERY REASON for us, as a country, to voluntarily reduce our reliance on fossil fuels. We're known for being a country on the cutting edge of innovation, we should be leading the way to the next energy supply for the future, in hopes of marketing our technologies to the world, and protecting our children's heritage.
 
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I believe the , Idea ( Populist perspective) partly came from the notion that man is causing some effects on the planet. Conservation has always been a part of the human condition thru out history.
One very suprising thing alot of people," do not know"- is the support
for the movement from, Mikhail Gorbachev- "Green Peace International".
If you go read some of the information about the environmental movement,
they talk about religion as being one issue that has caused a lot of trouble
for mankind. "If we are unified with a new mission," feeding the Innate sense of spiritualism' inherent in us ," we could have a better world". Read the green peace charter read," Kofi Annan" See whats at the heart of," The Save mankind- Worship The earth movement" . Go look!
 
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I believe the , Idea partly came from the notion that man is causing some effects on the planet. Conservation has always been a part of the human condition thru out history.
One very suprising thing alot of people," do not know"- is the support
for the movement from, Mikhail Gorbachev- "Green Peace International".
If you go read some of the information about the environmental movement,
they talk about religion as being one issue that has caused a lot of trouble
for mankind. "If we are unified with a new mission," feeding the Innate sense of spiritualism' inherent in us ," we could have a better world". Read the green peace charter read," Kofi Annan" See whats at the heart of," The Save mankind- Worship The earth movement" . Go look!

Tinfoil all around.
 
I dont believe in conspiracys! I think the idea appeals to alot of people because it makes them feel as if they can make some monumental contribution by protecting the earth. The need to Use Global warming was to alarm us and make it an Immediate danger." Its different than yelling ,"Fire in a crowded theater". It would be more like saying," Repent! Change your ways or destroy your future, on this big blue ball, spinning thru space". MUHWAH.....lol
 
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So, wouldn't we benefit, as a country, from reducing our reliance on fossil fuels?

Sure, that's entirely fine. Just don't be a part of the insane "the sky is falling" nonsense. There are rational reasons to do it, the end of the world isn't one of them.
 
Global warming is only a myth to those of double digit IQs, including some very stupid senators who should stick to what they know, if anything.
I'll trust the scientists as a body.
 
So, wouldn't we benefit, as a country, from reducing our reliance on fossil fuels?


.......while simultaneously destroying the competitiveness of our economy and burdening our lower classes with increased energy costs...no.
 
Global warming is only a myth to those of double digit IQs, including some very stupid senators who should stick to what they know, if anything.
I'll trust the scientists as a body.

Don't trust people, trust evidence. Anyone can lie and we've found lots of instances, such as Rajendra Pachauri, head of the leading global warming watchdog group, who presented the case at Copenhagen that the Himilayas would melt by 2035. He knew for a fact before Copenhagen that his figures were a complete lie, that they had been soundly disproven, but he went ahead so he could make hundreds of thousands of dollars in grant money.

The facts just don't support the claims of the global warming community, sorry.
 
Sure, that's entirely fine. Just don't be a part of the insane "the sky is falling" nonsense. There are rational reasons to do it, the end of the world isn't one of them.

I think that, as a Floridian, I do have to think about the possibility of global warming because if it happened, it would drastically alter life for us, at least.
 
In my opinion, a lot of the politics around global warming are indeed bunk. For instance, the idea that we should subsidize China in order for them to adopt green technology is ridiculous (although, thanks to our reliance on fossil fuels that has necessitated our current interventionist position, we aren't in any position to reason with China since we owe them billions, if not trillions).

However, having said that, there is EVERY REASON for us, as a country, to voluntarily reduce our reliance on fossil fuels. We're known for being a country on the cutting edge of innovation, we should be leading the way to the next energy supply for the future, in hopes of marketing our technologies to the world, and protecting our children's heritage.

That's a task for time and technology, not the federal government. If central planning was a working concept the soviet union would have been a success instead of such a miserable failure.
 
I think that, as a Floridian, I do have to think about the possibility of global warming because if it happened, it would drastically alter life for us, at least.

That's like saying we ought to be buying "asteroid credits" or some stupid sham like that because if a giant asteroid hit the planet, it would drastically alter life for everyone. Falling for a sham is bad no matter what the potential consequences of it being true might be.
 
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