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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What agencies? Do you mean scientific societies? All of them from all over the world that reached a consensus years ago?

    This could only occur if there was a world wide conspiracy, and you have shown no proof of that.
    On the other hand, not all scientists agree with the AGW/ACC theory.

    Simply those in certain agencies, and some outside them.

    Why do some of the scientists outside those agencies (Or in a few cases, inside? Don't know the particulars...) disagree with the ACC theory?

    The first thought that comes to my mind is that they believe they have contrary evidence, or proof the no supporting evidence exists.

    That or they believe they have found flaws in the ACC theory.

    The question is, are they correct in their belief?

    What are your opinions on such scientists?
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?



    Continuing a decade-long trend of declining global temperatures, the year 2008 was significantly colder than 2007, and global temperatures for the year were below the average over the past 30 years.

    The global temperature data, reported by NASA satellite-based temperature measurements, refuted predictions 2008 would be one of the warmest on record.



    Data show 2008 ranked 14th coldest of the 30 years measured by NASA satellite instruments since they were first launched in 1979. It was the coldest year since 2000. (See accompanying figure.)
    Okay, so now the proof that global cooling is occuring is on the board.

    Happy?

    You'll have to thump your IPCC reports harder now.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    On the other hand, not all scientists agree with the AGW/ACC theory.
    No, not all scientists, some scientists don't believe in evolution, but all of mainstream science does. Same thing with ACC.

    Why do some of the scientists outside those agencies (Or in a few cases, inside? Don't know the particulars...) disagree with the ACC theory?
    You would have to ask them.

    The first thought that comes to my mind is that they believe they have contrary evidence, or proof the no supporting evidence exists.

    That or they believe they have found flaws in the ACC theory.

    The question is, are they correct in their belief?

    What are your opinions on such scientists?
    I think in the last 5 decades this has been studied, if they had a case, they would have made it to the world's Institutes of Science.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post





    Okay, so now the proof that global cooling is occuring is on the board.

    Happy?

    You'll have to thump your IPCC reports harder now.
    This what you call proof?

    Let's examine it. Let's start with the source, the Heartland Institute.

    "Heartland Institute Bankrolls Dishonest Global Warming Campaign"

    You say you do not trust NASA's data, but you are prepared to believe NASA's data as misrepresented by a partisan opinion by a non-scientist.

    Were you under the impression this opinion piece was some type of scientific study?


    Amazing.

    Your opinion piece is outdated anyway.

    Not only is it opinion, it is out of date opinion, as the WMO and NASA have recently announced their new findings that 2000-2009 was the warmest decade in human history.

    See the March 2009 date on your opinion piece? That means they did not even look at the global temperatures during 2009.

    Better luck next time!
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post




    Okay, so now the proof that global cooling is occuring is on the board.

    Happy?

    You'll have to thump your IPCC reports harder now.
    I find it funny that your link points out La Nina as why the cooling occurred
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, not all scientists, some scientists don't believe in evolution, but all of mainstream science does. Same thing with ACC.
    That's what I just said...

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You would have to ask them.
    Sorry, I incorrectly phrased the question.

    I wanted your opinion on what you think their reasons for such a belief are.

    Are they simply misguided?

    Do previous opinions cloud their judgment?

    Do they actually believe that there is no ACC to worry about?

    Or what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think in the last 5 decades this has been studied, if they had a case, they would have made it to the world's Institutes of Science.
    I would assume that they either:
    1. Made their case, and the "Institutes of Science" did not consider it valid.
    2. Did not make their case, because they did not think the "Institutes of Science" would consider it valid.
    3. Some combination of the two.

    As I understand it, number three is the more likely situation. Some made their case, some did not, and those who did had their case dismissed as invalid.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As I understand it, number three is the more likely situation. Some made their case, some did not, and those who did had their case dismissed as invalid.
    A good explanation of the mainstream science acceptance process.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A good explanation of the mainstream science acceptance process.
    But such has no bearing on the validity of the case made by those who disagree with the ACC theory.
    Only that the people making such decisions in all those scientific institutions considered their arguments invalid.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But such has no bearing on the validity of the case made by those who disagree with the ACC theory.
    Only that the people making such decisions in all those scientific institutions considered their arguments invalid.
    What makes you think they were considered invalid without study? Einstien's theory of relativity required confirmation of results from other scientists in the scientific institutes before his theory was accepted into mainstream science.

    Why should the scientific standard be lowered in this issue?
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What makes you think they were considered invalid without study?
    Never said they were.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Einsteinís theory of relativity required confirmation of results from other scientists in the scientific institutes before his theory was accepted into mainstream science.
    Of course it did...that is part of the scientific process.

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    Why should the scientific standard be lowered in this issue?
    It shouldn't.
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