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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Quoting liberally biased wikipedia isn't very credible. The facts are that science supports that AGW is false, many of the scientists who worked on it have admitted their fraud and their beliefs that there has been no warming. Plus that quote is old and it doesn't matter what societies push. They are funded to push certain things and if they don't they lose funding or are fired. The scientific community is very corrupt, and the truth about that is all coming out now. And what about what Phil Jones said from the link above your post? And what about my petition signed by scientists who don't support AGW?
    You are aware are you not that Wikipedia requires sourcing for each entry:

    "Brigham-Grette, Julie; et al. "Petroleum Geologist' Award to Novelist Crichton Is Inappropriate". EOS 87 (36): 364. http://www.agu.org/fora/eos/pdfs/2006EO360008.pdf. Retrieved 2009-12-10. "AAPG...stands alone among scientific societies in its denial of human-induced effects on global warming".

    If you have evidence that refutes the claim present it. Document the scientific societies that deny the human induced effects of global warming.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are aware are you not that Wikipedia requires sourcing for each entry:

    "Brigham-Grette, Julie; et al. "Petroleum Geologist' Award to Novelist Crichton Is Inappropriate". EOS 87 (36): 364. http://www.agu.org/fora/eos/pdfs/2006EO360008.pdf. Retrieved 2009-12-10. "AAPG...stands alone among scientific societies in its denial of human-induced effects on global warming".

    If you have evidence that refutes the claim present it. Document the scientific societies that deny the human induced effects of global warming.
    How do you know the source is accurate? It clearly has a bias, plus it's old "5 September 2006." Things have changed in the past four years (and especially recently). And myself and others have posted evidence against global warming and have exposed the fraud that it is. Please respond to my previous posts and others regarding that. What about Phil Jones? Or the petition by scientists? Or the facts that IPCC is corrupt and admits to using fraudulent data? Or the climate-gate scandals?

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How do you know the source is accurate? It clearly has a bias, plus it's old "5 September 2006." Things have changed in the past four years (and especially recently). And myself and others have posted evidence against global warming and have exposed the fraud that it is. Please respond to my previous posts and others regarding that. What about Phil Jones? Or the petition by scientists? Or the facts that IPCC is corrupt and admits to using fraudulent data? Or the climate-gate scandals?
    Do you have more updated evidence that any of the Academies of Science have taken a dissenting opinion of AGW? If not, my source referenced stands.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you have more updated evidence that any of the Academies of Science have taken a dissenting opinion of AGW? If not, my source referenced stands.
    It doesn't matter what stances are, they are all corrupt. Do you honestly think the IPCC would hire a skeptic? Or Nasa? Do you think the government would still fund organizations if they admitted the truth that AGW isn't true? Obama is planning on funding NASA billions in order for them to find out how humans are causing warming... Do you think they would give that money up and push what is true? What about the scientists that are part of those organizations but now admit to fraud and believe there hasn't been warming? There are many academics who don't believe in AGW as my petition states. You still haven't responded to my and others content though.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It doesn't matter what stances are, they are all corrupt.
    I don't buy into the world conspiracy theory. You may find others that interested in discussing this on aisle 9.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't buy into the world conspiracy theory. You may find others that interested in discussing this on aisle 9.
    So you reject the truth? And what about the rest of my post? You have yet to respond to any of my arguments and other's arguments. You talk about consensus and all the organizations that push a lie. What about their blatant lies and their admitting to fraud and corrupting data? It's not a conspiracy when there is proof. There is proof that the IPCC lied, we have proof from the climate-gate emails, and we have more proof from scientists who have come out and admitted to lying and even say warming probably isn't happening at all.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    So you reject the truth? And what about the rest of my post? You have yet to respond to any of my arguments and other's arguments. You talk about consensus and all the organizations that push a lie. What about their blatant lies and their admitting to fraud and corrupting data? It's not a conspiracy when there is proof. There is proof that the IPCC lied, we have proof from the climate-gate emails, and we have more proof from scientists who have come out and admitted to lying and even say warming probably isn't happening at all.
    A few people in IPCC do not disprove the overwhelming scientific evidence from all of the planet's major scientific organizations. I am a believer in science and the mainstream scientific consensus is that man is contributing to our global warming.

    To deny the credibility of all of the world's scientific organization requires one to think there is a world wide conspiracy that spanned decades. Some can make that leap if they wish.

    I've got to go with the mainstream science.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A few people in IPCC do not disprove the overwhelming scientific evidence from all of the planet's major scientific organizations. I am a believer in science and the mainstream scientific consensus is that man is contributing to our global warming.

    To deny the credibility of all of the world's scientific organization requires one to think there is a world wide conspiracy that spanned decades. Some can make that leap if they wish.

    I've got to go with the mainstream science.
    It's not a few people in the IPCC, it's the IPCC report that has been exposed as fraudulent, the stuff the IPCC created was a lie and based off of manipulated data and incorrect facts. Main stream science isn't always right. Main stream science is funded by politics, and politicians want global warming to be true so they can implement policies giving them more power. Looking at main stream science we see that it is increasingly corrupt. The IPCC is wrong, climate-gate emails have been released, and many of these scientists are coming out and admitting their faults. What about Phil Jones? He is a leading main stream scientist and now is saying that there has been fraudulent data, manipulation, and that warming probably isn't happening. Is he wrong? He is part of main stream science and up until a little while ago supported AGW. Lies are being exposed in the machine, main stream science is corrupt, and it's not a conspiracy to hold this view when there is physical proof and scientists actually admitting that it's fraudulent. The credibility of politically funded "scientific" organizations is nil, and the facts are that much of the AGW community is corrupt and has admitted that. Btw, I am still waiting for you to respond to previous posts, facts against AGW, and the corruption within main stream science. Look past the "consensus" and address the facts yourself.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's not a few people in the IPCC, it's the IPCC report that has been exposed as fraudulent, the stuff the IPCC created was a lie and based off of manipulated data and incorrect facts.
    According to the right wing blogs you forgot to add to the above.

    I still gotta go with the scientists consensus from all over the world that are connected in no way with the IPCC.

    Main stream science isn't always right. Main stream science is funded by politics, and politicians want global warming to be true so they can implement policies giving them more power. Looking at main stream science we see that it is increasingly corrupt. The IPCC is wrong, climate-gate emails have been released, and many of these scientists are coming out and admitting their faults. What about Phil Jones? He is a leading main stream scientist and now is saying that there has been fraudulent data, manipulation, and that warming probably isn't happening. Is he wrong? He is part of main stream science and up until a little while ago supported AGW. Lies are being exposed in the machine, main stream science is corrupt, and it's not a conspiracy to hold this view when there is physical proof and scientists actually admitting that it's fraudulent. The credibility of politically funded "scientific" organizations is nil, and the facts are that much of the AGW community is corrupt and has admitted that. Btw, I am still waiting for you to respond to previous posts, facts against AGW, and the corruption within main stream science. Look past the "consensus" and address the facts yourself.
    Like I said I don't buy into the conspiracy theories espoused by the right wing blogs.

    What the scientists have concluded is inline with my own reasoning.

    I side with science. But to each their own!!
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    See below:

    "The finding that the climate has warmed in recent decades and that human activities are already contributing adversely to global climate change has been endorsed by every national science academy that has issued a statement on climate change, including the science academies of all of the major industrialized countries.[25] With the release of the revised statement by the American Association of Petroleum Geologists in 2007[26], no remaining scientific society is known to reject the basic findings of human influence on recent climate change."
    Global warming controversy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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    Scientists at the heart of the Climategate row were yesterday accused by a leading academic body of undermining science's credibility.

    The Institute of Physics said 'worrying implications' had been raised after it was revealed the University of East Anglia had manipulated data on global warming.

    The rebuke - the strongest yet from the scientific community - came as Professor Phil Jones, the researcher at the heart of the scandal, told MPs he had written 'some pretty awful emails' - but denied trying to suppress data.
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    The Climategate row, which was first revealed by the Daily Mail in November, was triggered when a hacker stole hundreds of emails sent from East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit.

    They revealed scientists plotting how to avoid responding to Freedom of Information requests from climate change sceptics.

    Some even appeared to show the researchers discussing how to manipulate raw data from tree rings about historical temperatures.

    In one, Professor Jones talks about using a 'trick' to massage figures and 'hide the decline'.




    Giving evidence to a Science and Technology Committee inquiry, the Institute of Physics said: 'Unless the disclosed emails are proved to be forgeries or adaptations, worrying implications arise for the integrity of scientific research and for the credibility of the scientific method.

    'The principle that scientists should be willing to expose their results to independent testing and replication by others, which requires the open exchange of data, procedures and materials, is vital.'

    Last month, the Information Commissioner ruled the CRU had broken Freedom of Information rules by refusing to hand over raw data.

    But yesterday Professor Jones - in his first public appearance since the scandal broke - denied manipulating the figures.

    Looking pale and clasping his shaking hands in front of him, he told MPs: 'I have obviously written some pretty awful emails.'

    He admitted withholding data about global temperatures but said the information was publicly available from American websites.

    And he claimed it was not 'standard practice' to release data and computer models so other scientists could check and challenge research.

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