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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I was aware the world was warming.

    This is a good thing, for some areas, and a negative thing for others.

    Humans will adapt, or die.

    Such is the natural progression of things.

    I still have not seen enough proof to convince me that it is AGW.

    Just GW.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    The IPCC leaves out any scientific evidence that would hurt their view on GW



    FOXNews.com - New Climate Agency Head Tried to Suppress Data, Critics Charge

    But Roger Pielke Sr., a climatologist affiliated with the University of Colorado who has crossed horns with Karl in the past, says his appointment was a mistake. He accused Karl of suppressing data he submitted for the IPCC's most recent report on climate change and having a very narrow view of its causes.

    The IPCC is charged with reviewing scientific data on climate change and providing policy makers and others with an assessment of current knowledge.

    Pielke said he agrees that global warming is happening and that man plays a significant role in it, but he said there are many factors in addition to the release of carbon into the atmosphere that need to be studied to fully understand the phenomenon. He said he resigned from the IPCC in August 2005 because his data, and the work of numerous other scientists, were not included in its most recent report.

    In his resignation letter, Pielke wrote that he had completed the assessment of current knowledge for his chapter of the report, when Karl abruptly took control of the final draft. He said the chapter he had nearly completed was then rewritten with a too-narrow focus.

    One of the key areas of dispute, he said, was in describing "recent regional trends in surface and tropospheric temperatures," and the impact of land use on temperatures. It is the interpretation of this data on which the intellectual basis of the idea of global warming hangs.

    In an interview, Pielke reiterated that Karl "has actively opposed views different from his own." And on his Web site last week, he said Karl's appointment "assures that policy makers will continue to receive an inappropriately narrow view of our actual knowledge with respect to climate science."

    He said the people who run the agencies in charge of climate monitoring are too narrowly focused, and he worries that the creation of the new office "would give the same small group of people the chance to speak on the issue and exclude others" whose views might diverge from theirs.

    Responding to the criticism, Karl told the Washington Post, "the literature doesn't show [Pielke's] ideas about the importance of land use are correct."

    Calls to The Commerce Department and to Karl's office went unanswered.

    The IPCC in recent weeks has come under severe criticism after e-mails, hacked from a prestigious climate center, revealed some of the political infighting that occurred as its assessments were being put together and called into question its impartiality.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    ...stuff...
    You realize that you cited FoxNews?

    Your source is unacceptable, as it is fox news.

    Obviously.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    You realize that you cited FoxNews?

    Your source is unacceptable, as it is fox news.

    Obviously.
    Up yours prove it wrong. Fox news is more trustworthy than CNN or NBC or CBS or ABC or MSNBC or THE NYT should I go on.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I was aware the world was warming.

    This is a good thing, for some areas, and a negative thing for others.

    Humans will adapt, or die.

    Such is the natural progression of things.

    I still have not seen enough proof to convince me that it is AGW.

    Just GW.
    As you can see in this thread, many think we are in a cooling period. (They'll be back around shortly)

    Your statement that humans will adapt or die, is only a natural progression when it is caused by natural sources. The preponderance of scientific evidence points to human contribution of C02.

    Nevertheless, I found a way you can reasonably analyze for yourself the various possible causes of global warming which you agree is happening:


    "This is a brief note on how to evaluate the causes of global warming, without the assistance of super-computers running advanced three-dimensional geophysical models of atmospheric and oceanic dynamics. The latter style of modeling has provoked quite a substantial controversy around the world, as it is based on methods that are nearly impossible for ordinary citizens to use and evaluate.

    Instead of joining this rhetorical debate, my goal in this essay is to show a simple way to evaluate the major hypothetical causes of global warming, such as solar sunspot activity and greenhouse gases produced by the use of fossil fuels (coal, petroleum, and natural gas)."

    The Quaker Economist #158 - Global Warming: A Graphical Approach

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Up yours prove it wrong. Fox news is more trustworthy than CNN or NBC or CBS or ABC or MSNBC or THE NYT should I go on.
    That was sarcasm...

    Or is this sarcasm too?

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    As you can see in this thread, many think we are in a cooling period. (They'll be back around shortly)

    Your statement that humans will adapt or die, is only a natural progression when it is caused by natural sources. The preponderance of scientific evidence points to human contribution of C02.

    Nevertheless, I found a way you can reasonably analyze for yourself the various possible causes of global warming which you agree is happening:


    "This is a brief note on how to evaluate the causes of global warming, without the assistance of super-computers running advanced three-dimensional geophysical models of atmospheric and oceanic dynamics. The latter style of modeling has provoked quite a substantial controversy around the world, as it is based on methods that are nearly impossible for ordinary citizens to use and evaluate.

    Instead of joining this rhetorical debate, my goal in this essay is to show a simple way to evaluate the major hypothetical causes of global warming, such as solar sunspot activity and greenhouse gases produced by the use of fossil fuels (coal, petroleum, and natural gas)."

    The Quaker Economist #158 - Global Warming: A Graphical Approach

    Read my link the IPCC is corrupt and unbelievable. Thay have no credibility.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That was sarcasm...

    Or is this sarcasm too?

    AUGGG my head!!!
    Sorry!!!

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Read my link the IPCC is corrupt and unbelievable. Thay have no credibility.
    Than don't use their data if you do not believe them. Virtually every scientific organization with national or international standing has confirmed the general findings of the IPCC, that we are in an accelerated warming period due to man's contribution of CO2.
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