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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Ice caps are melting and polar bears are dying. I will keep repeating this til people understand this fact!

    It is NOT some frigging normal cycle the Earth takes.
    Ice caps are not melting, and polar bears are just fine. Stop spreading lies.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    I'm not even sure why this debate continues. The AGW farce is over; Jones has already admitted that he's a moron at best, a liar at worst...

    Of course, there will still be some true believers to push the dead agenda, but the reasonable people already know it's over.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm not even sure why this debate continues. The AGW farce is over; Jones has already admitted that he's a moron at best, a liar at worst...

    Of course, there will still be some true believers to push the dead agenda, but the reasonable people already know it's over.
    If Jones was the only scientist making the claim you might have a point, but since he is not..........
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    "Scientists believe retreating glaciers are the clearest expression of climate change, and 50 years of research in Alaska and in Washington's northern Cascades shows glaciers have not only shrunken but are losing mass at an increasingly fast pace.

    The findings by the U.S. Geological Survey could mean bad news for mountain streams, endangered fish and hydro-electric utilities, said Edward Josberger, a researcher at the USGS Water Science Center in Tacoma."

    "From a global perspective, all of these glaciers are really living on the edge," he said. "They're the canaries in the coal mine."

    Long-term study details glaciers shrinking in Washington and Alaska | Oregon Environmental News - OregonLive.com

    I would be very interested in hearing from anyone how Phil Jones caused the glaciers to shrink over the last 50 years!!!!
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If Jones was the only scientist making the claim you might have a point, but since he is not..........
    Ah, your logic is that Bernie Madoff confessed to running a Ponzi Scheme, but but since other people in on the scam haven't admitted to it, they should be allowed to continue running Bernie's business.

    Oooo....no, better yet...

    When the people making crop art explain exactly how they build the features using boards and ropes and simple hat-mounted sites, it just means THOSE crop circles are fake, the OTHER crop circles were built by aliens.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "Scientists believe retreating glaciers are the clearest expression of climate change, and 50 years of research in Alaska and in Washington's northern Cascades shows glaciers have not only shrunken but are losing mass at an increasingly fast pace.

    The findings by the U.S. Geological Survey could mean bad news for mountain streams, endangered fish and hydro-electric utilities, said Edward Josberger, a researcher at the USGS Water Science Center in Tacoma."

    "From a global perspective, all of these glaciers are really living on the edge," he said. "They're the canaries in the coal mine."

    Long-term study details glaciers shrinking in Washington and Alaska | Oregon Environmental News - OregonLive.com

    I would be very interested in hearing from anyone how Phil Jones caused the glaciers to shrink over the last 50 years!!!!

    Actually, retreating glaciers are evidence that precipitation is less than that needed to maintain positive accumulation rates. Doesn't say a thing about global warming, doesn't say anything at all about any alleged human causes for the alleged warming.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If Jones was the only scientist making the claim you might have a point, but since he is not..........
    Fallacy: Appeal to popularity
    That just one person is making the claim in no way means that one person is wrong

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Actually, retreating glaciers are evidence that precipitation is less than that needed to maintain positive accumulation rates. Doesn't say a thing about global warming, doesn't say anything at all about any alleged human causes for the alleged warming.
    actually, according to scientists, yes it does, because what you conveniently left out is the significance of the melt rate.

    SOTC: Glaciers

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Fallacy: Appeal to popularity
    That just one person is making the claim in no way means that one person is wrong
    That's assuming every other person who believes in climate change has exactly the same data. Needless to say, that is not stipulated.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    actually, according to scientists, yes it does, because what you conveniently left out is the significance of the melt rate.

    SOTC: Glaciers
    Their logic is circular.

    No, what I didn't mention was the fact that glaciers retreat and come back. How fast do you think the glaciers were melting during the Mid-Holocene Altithermal or during the Medieval Warm Period?

    Want to know what the melt rate means?

    It means the air is warmer now than in the recent past.

    Warmer air speeds melting. Try it with a hair dryer and some ice cubes if you don't believe me.

    But it does not speak to why the air is warmer.

    Or, rather, the air was warmer in the 90's. The earth has been cooling since.

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