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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Bush Administration tries to silence confimation from EPA of the threats to human health from GW~

    "But Burnett says that the White House asked him not to send the endangerment findings, after he had already e-mailed them to the White House Office of Management and Budget. Upon realising the document had already been sent, Burnett says he received a "phone call from the White House" asking him to send a follow-up email saying that the document "had been sent in error". Burnett says he "explained I could not do this because it was not true". The White House decided not to open the e-mail, and it's since been hanging out in the ether while the EPA and the White House continue to battle over whether their official rulemaking notice should reflect the scientific findings of experts or the White House's ideological desires.

    But Burnett spilled about more than just this recent scuffle. He also noted that in the fall of 2007, the Council on Environmental Quality and the Cheney's office asked him to work with the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to remove portions of a report detailing the threats that climate change poses to human health."


    Kate Sheppard: White House censored scientific reports on climate change | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk

    EPA links health endangerment to AGW ~

    "WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency on Monday issued a final ruling that greenhouse gases posed a danger to human health and the environment, paving the way for regulation of carbon dioxide emissions from vehicles, power plants, factories, refineries and other major sources.

    The announcement was timed to coincide with the opening of the United Nations conference on climate change in Copenhagen, strengthening President Obama’s hand as more than 190 nations struggle to reach a global accord.

    The E.P.A.’s administrator, Lisa P. Jackson, said that a 2007 decision by the Supreme Court required the agency to weigh whether carbon dioxide and five other climate-altering gases threatened human health and welfare and, if so, to take steps to regulate them.

    She said Monday that the finding was driven by the weight of scientific evidence that the planet was warming and that human activity was largely responsible."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/08/sc...rth/08epa.html


    No response on my 2 articles of scientist back tracking and admitting GW is natural?

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No response on my 2 articles of scientist back tracking and admitting GW is natural?
    Back at you
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No response on my 2 articles of scientist back tracking and admitting GW is natural?
    I submitted confirmation from our own EPA's findings (under both parties), that in addition to the findings of scientists from 180 countries trumps everything presented in your articles from my perspective.

    Those EPA findings are the basis of new CAFE requirements and will soon be used to regulate C02 emissions from industry just like other air pollutants, which will not require Congressional approval.

    This will represent the biggest reduction in C02 emissions in the history of the US.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I submitted confirmation from our own EPA's findings (under both parties), that in addition to the findings of scientists from 180 countries trumps everything presented in your articles from my perspective.

    Those EPA findings are the basis of new CAFE requirements and will soon be used to regulate C02 emissions from industry just like other air pollutants, which will not require Congressional approval.

    This will represent the biggest reduction in C02 emissions in the history of the US.
    These articles show the findings are false and use bad data. These are IPCC scientist stating this.

    You don't care about facts I can't help you.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    These articles show the findings are false and use bad data. These are IPCC scientist stating this.

    You don't care about facts I can't help you.
    Exactly the same can be said about you.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Exactly the same can be said about you.
    I posted facts

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    I disregarded facts
    There, fixed it for you. While I admit Catawba didn't address your points, you also failed to address his. Therefore, you were both in fault. Catawba later addressed it, indirectly. You maintin your position, and have as of yet, failed to address the points brought up by Catawba.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    There, fixed it for you. While I admit Catawba didn't address your points, you also failed to address his. Therefore, you were both in fault. Catawba later addressed it, indirectly. You maintin your position, and have as of yet, failed to address the points brought up by Catawba.
    What that the EPA used the false data my articles admit to.

    This makes GW a lie. There is no rush. No need for cap and trade. Pollution can be addressed in a way that will not hurt our economy at this bad economic time.


    You can not claim fact on things that the scientist are saying was based on false and bad data.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What that the EPA used the false data my articles admit to.
    Prove the EPA used the false data your article refers to in making their determination.

    You can not claim fact on things that the scientist are saying was based on false and bad data.
    If you have not provided any evidence regarding EPA's determinations. I did not see the EPA discussed anywhere in your articles.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Prove the EPA used the false data your article refers to in making their determination.



    If you have not provided any evidence regarding EPA's determinations. I did not see the EPA discussed anywhere in your articles.
    So if the EPA did not use IPCC data what data did they use?

    http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/
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