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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    Prove to me that the emails said that
    Here's the data manipulation...

    From: Phil Jones
    To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx
    Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
    Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
    Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx
    Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
    Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or
    first thing tomorrow.
    I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
    to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
    1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual
    land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
    N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
    for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
    data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
    Thanks for the comments, Ray.
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    Full explanation can be found here.

    And here's trying to circumvent the peer-review process...

    I can't see either of these papers being in the next IPCC report," Jones writes. "Kevin and I will keep them out somehow -- even if we have to redefine what the peer-review literature is!"

    ...

    Perhaps we should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no longer submit to, or cite papers in, this journal.

    I will be emailing the journal to tell them I'm having nothing more to do with it until they rid themselves of this troublesome editor.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Here's the data manipulation...



    Full explanation can be found here.

    And here's trying to circumvent the peer-review process...


    Don't you read the papers?
    Could you please provide one more link? I looked the link you provided over, and I noticed it seemed distinctly bias. When it said Jones confession, with confession crossed out, I really couldn't take this link very seriously.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Could you please provide one more link? I looked the link you provided over, and I noticed it seemed distinctly bias. When it said Jones confession, with confession crossed out, I really couldn't take this link very seriously.
    Typical issue avoidance....

    McIntyre is the person who discredited the Hockey Stick Graph. His analysis is sound.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Could you please provide one more link? I looked the link you provided over, and I noticed it seemed distinctly bias. When it said Jones confession, with confession crossed out, I really couldn't take this link very seriously.
    Steven Mcintyre - the man in the middle of the CRU mailings - there is mutual hatred there - I would not take anything from there as being trustworthy
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowerbird View Post
    Steven Mcintyre - the man in the middle of the CRU mailings - there is mutual hatred there - I would not take anything from there as being trustworthy
    Oh please, because McIntyre might be involved, so you've found a loophole to discredit the whole CRU thing. Reach much?
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Utah takes a stand.


    Utah delivers vote of no confidence for 'climate alarmists' | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    Carbon dioxide is "essentially harmless" to human beings and good for plants. So now will you stop worrying about global warming?

    Utah's House of Representatives apparently has at least. Officially the most Republican state in America, its political masters have adopted a resolution condemning "climate alarmists", and disputing any scientific basis for global warming.

    The measure, which passed by 56-17, has no legal force, though it was predictably claimed by climate change sceptics as a great victory in the wake of the controversy caused by a mistake over Himalayan glaciers in the UN's landmark report on global warming.

    But it does offer a view of state politicians' concerns in Utah which is a major oil and coal producing state.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Utah takes a stand.


    Utah delivers vote of no confidence for 'climate alarmists' | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    Carbon dioxide is "essentially harmless" to human beings and good for plants. So now will you stop worrying about global warming?

    Utah's House of Representatives apparently has at least. Officially the most Republican state in America, its political masters have adopted a resolution condemning "climate alarmists", and disputing any scientific basis for global warming.

    The measure, which passed by 56-17, has no legal force, though it was predictably claimed by climate change sceptics as a great victory in the wake of the controversy caused by a mistake over Himalayan glaciers in the UN's landmark report on global warming.

    But it does offer a view of state politicians' concerns in Utah which is a major oil and coal producing state.
    I see, so Utah (pop 2.7m) has a mini-assembly that votes not to believe in the threat of climate change and this is meant to lend weight to the argument? Perhaps we should do a review of every state and regional assembly and see what their take is on the matter. I believe the Welsh assembly (Pop. of Wales 3 million) take quite a strong view that climate change IS caused by human activity. Does that balance things out for you?

    No, thought not.

    Please, let's keep it serious.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I see, so Utah (pop 2.7m) has a mini-assembly that votes not to believe in the threat of climate change and this is meant to lend weight to the argument? Perhaps we should do a review of every state and regional assembly and see what their take is on the matter. I believe the Welsh assembly (Pop. of Wales 3 million) take quite a strong view that climate change IS caused by human activity. Does that balance things out for you?

    No, thought not.

    Please, let's keep it serious.
    It shows the affect of the lies and fraud being revealed has.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It shows the affect of the lies and fraud being revealed has.
    True, but don't sweat it. The eyes of the World do not look to Utah on any subject other than polygamy.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    True, but don't sweat it. The eyes of the World do not look to Utah on any subject other than polygamy.
    The more lies and fraud that is revealed the more this will spread

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