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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There was nothing in the hacked emails that disproves global warming.

    As I told Ethereal, I look at it this way. If you are right, and we take action to reduce our C02 anyway, we have cleaner air and are less dependent on Middle East wars for our energy which improves our economy and our security.

    On the other hand, if the scientist are right and we do nothing, we are condemning future life on the planet to a much more hostile environment that eventually may not be able to support life as we have known it.

    The majority of us are not prepared to gamble with our grandchildren's lives.

    What if you are wrong? Have you thought about the consequences and the guilt you would have for condemning future life on the planet?
    Except that people lied about peer reviewed reports and denied access to the data used in their analysis. They also manipulated their analyses by leaving out certain data.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Except that people lied about peer reviewed reports and denied access to the data used in their analysis. They also manipulated their analyses by leaving out certain data.
    That does not disprove global warming by the consensus of scientists from 180 countries around the world. The effect of greenhouse gases was first discovered in 1824. How would some hacked emails from a few months ago, affect the findings back then?

    If you have proof of time travel, I am very interested in seeing it!

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We now have confirmation of the EPA under both parties as well as scientists from 180 countries around the world.

    I look at it this way. If you are right, and we take action to reduce our C02 anyway, we have cleaner air and are less dependent on Middle East wars for our energy which improves our economy and our security.

    On the other hand, if the scientist are right and we do nothing, we are condemning future life on the planet to a much more hostile environment that eventually may not be able to support life as we have known it.

    The majority of us are not prepared to gamble with our grandchildren's lives.

    What if you are wrong? Have you thought about the consequences and the guilt you would have for condemning future life on the planet?
    Pardon me, sir, but I am your "grandchildren". I'm the person who will have to live with the consequences of your generations' foul-ups long after you, Cat, are dead, so spare me the alarmist nonsense about saving the children.

    What you and others are suggesting is not a sensible contingency plan, instead, you want to fundamentally alter the nature of our economy and empower governments the world over to further interfere in our lives, all based upon a flimsy correlation and suspect data.

    Sorry, but I'm not buying it, and will continue to speak against it. I think my generation will be the one to finally start fixing all the problems you old people have made for us...

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Pardon me, sir, but I am your "grandchildren". I'm the person who will have to live with the consequences of your generations' foul-ups long after you, Cat, are dead, so spare me the alarmist nonsense about saving the children.

    What you and others are suggesting is not a sensible contingency plan, instead, you want to fundamentally alter the nature of our economy and empower governments the world over to further interfere in our lives, all based upon a flimsy correlation and suspect data.

    Sorry, but I'm not buying it, and will continue to speak against it. I think my generation will be the one to finally start fixing all the problems you old people have made for us...
    Haha, that entire statement is riddled with hypocrisy, and contradiction.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think he was referring to actual results, not falsified results.

    So far, I am of the opinion that humans have a very slight, if any, effect on the climate.
    Most of the other results are based upon the same data sets and methods used by the liar scumbags pretending to be scientists.

    For instance, does it matter what method you use when 9 out of 10 temperature monitoring stations in the United States (supposedly the most advanced system on the planet) do not meet minimum siting standards? If the data is suspect, then ALL the research based upon it is not credible.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Haha, that entire statement is riddled with hypocrisy, and contradiction.
    Haha, your statement has a comma splice.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Most of the other results are based upon the same data sets and methods used by the liar scumbags pretending to be scientists.
    Actually, you misunderstood my point. I meant that, as per the scientific process, if enough scientists produce corroborating evidence of a hypothesis, it then would be accepted as a proven hypothesis, or theory.
    Theories can be disproved.
    Theories are used as a basis for further hypotheses.

    In this case, the hypothesis that: “Human industrialization causes increased levels of CO2 emission”.

    Used in conjunction with the hypothesis that: “An increase in the level of CO2 in the atmosphere causes warmer global temperatures”.

    When taken together, these two hypotheses led to the hypothesis that: “Human industrialization/CO2 emissions causes warmer global temperatures”.

    If, as some believe, the second hypothesis is correct, then the degree to which CO2 causes warmer temperatures becomes an issue.
    If a small degree, perhaps no issue exists.
    If a large degree, a pressing issue may exist.

    If, as some believe, the second hypothesis is incorrect, then no issue exists.

    Note no one is arguing that CO2 levels are decreasing.

    The problem with this theory, in my mind, is that far too many variables are unexplored.

    For example, if I were to present the hypotheses that, firstly: “increased CO2 emissions cause improved conditions for plant life”.
    Secondly, that: “Improved conditions for plant life cause increases in the number of plants”.
    Thirdly, that: “An increase in the number of plants causes, as a result, an increase in the number of dead and decomposing plants”.
    Fourthly, that: “Decomposing plants give off heat”.

    Then, lastly, that: “Increased CO2 emissions cause increased plant growth, which leads to dead plants decomposing, which action emits heat, which causes a rise in global temperature.”

    This COULD be true...But it also might not be. Still,
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Most of the other results are based upon the same data sets and methods used by the liar scumbags pretending to be scientists.

    For instance, does it matter what method you use when 9 out of 10 temperature monitoring stations in the United States (supposedly the most advanced system on the planet) do not meet minimum siting standards? If the data is suspect, then ALL the research based upon it is not credible.
    Even assuming your conjecture were accurate, the area of the entire USA occupies less than 2% of the planet surface. Any error is minimal.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Its a complex subject but if your argument is "its been cold lately" then whats the point of arguing.

    My main point is i dont see why i should disagree with the vast majority of climatologists who believe in man made global warming.I dont see any big conspiracy.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Even assuming your conjecture were accurate, the area of the entire USA occupies less than 2% of the planet surface. Any error is minimal.
    http://www.heartland.org/books/PDFs/SurfaceStations.pdf

    The supposedly most advanced climate monitoring network on the planet is fatally compromised and you tell me the error is minimal. That's really hilarious.

    Question: What percentage of the Earth is actually covered by climate monitoring stations?

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