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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because our politicians have been receiving their marching orders from their corporate backers and car manufactures here that make more money from big gas guzzlers and they have a public here willing to buy them because they have convinced them that it would infringe on our liberty to invade and occupy countries to supply the oil needed so that we have the liberty to be wasteful to the detriment of future generations.

    Does it all make sense now?
    Kinda. In a kinda, "How ****ed up is that" kinda way, yeah.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes, yes I am.



    I then asked you:



    You have since only dodged those questions.
    And you still are taking what I am saying, and changing it into something I have not said. Your argument in it's generic and specific form is stupid, for the reasons I explained.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Kinda. In a kinda, "How ****ed up is that" kinda way, yeah.
    Yep, you understand it correctly than! Its one of the reasons we replaced many of the bad actors in our government in 2006 and 2008.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That doesn't really answer the question. I just did the conversion. That means that the best US Passat does 22 MPG and the worst European now does 24 MPG. It really doesn't explain why a US driver can't choose a version that does 44 MPG (53 European MPG).
    One's diesel and one's petrol. Our petrol vehicles are comparable to the European petrol vehicles. People out here have a thing against Diesel for some reason I'm not sure of, so it's basic supply and demand for why we don't get the Diesels. I owned a diesel work van for years and it was way better than a petrol van)

    Also, the way MPG are calculated was recently changed in the US. I'm not sure if they adopted a standard similar to the European standard or not. I do know that the changes caused a downward shift in MPG ratings for all vehicles.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    They are doing what we put them in office to do. Hard to get a handle on that huh?
    Well, since we didn't put the EPA people in office, no, they're not. They're bypassing democracy and the Constitution to regulate a concern that was on hardly anyone's minds when they voted in 2008. So no matter how you look at it, they're not "doing what we put them in office to do".

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    One's diesel and one's petrol. Our petrol vehicles are comparable to the European petrol vehicles. People out here have a thing against Diesel for some reason I'm not sure of, so it's basic supply and demand for why we don't get the Diesels. I owned a diesel work van for years and it was way better than a petrol van)

    Also, the way MPG are calculated was recently changed in the US. I'm not sure if they adopted a standard similar to the European standard or not. I do know that the changes caused a downward shift in MPG ratings for all vehicles.
    Wow. I didn't know US drivers don't like diesels. Here they comprise about 40% of the private car market and about 95% of the commercial vehicle market. Also, diesel's cheaper than gas. Here in Andalucia (one of the poorest, hence cheapest regions of Spain) 95 octane gas is $1.50 per litre ($5.68 per gallon), 98 octane is $1.70 a litre. Diesel is $1.35.

    I guess you can understand now how come Europe has reduced its fossil fuel consumption and chooses more economical engines.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Well, since we didn't put the EPA people in office, no, they're not. They're bypassing democracy and the Constitution to regulate a concern that was on hardly anyone's minds when they voted in 2008. So no matter how you look at it, they're not "doing what we put them in office to do".
    We elect the president to carry out our priorities, and he appoints the head of the EPA and other departments to get it done, that's how it works.

    That is what the Republicans did as well. They just had different priorities.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    I hope that the IPCC dissolves so prosperity can thrive... Drill for oil on US soil, use natural gas, and use coal. It would revive the economically depressed areas of PN, OH, and WV. We would be less Dependant on foreign oil, we could sell our surplus oil to make money and pay back our debts too. It's a win win win situation. But oh no, some lying bunch of scientists need to lobby in favor of a global hoax in order to control the world's governments and put more power in the hands of the UN.

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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I hope that the IPCC dissolves so prosperity can thrive... Drill for oil on US soil, use natural gas, and use coal. It would revive the economically depressed areas of PN, OH, and WV. We would be less Dependant on foreign oil, we could sell our surplus oil to make money and pay back our debts too. It's a win win win situation. But oh no, some lying bunch of scientists need to lobby in favor of a global hoax in order to control the world's governments and put more power in the hands of the UN.
    When in doubt, stick with conspiracy theories, eh? So much more comfortable than considering you might have to change your behaviour for the good of others.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Wow. I didn't know US drivers don't like diesels. Here they comprise about 40% of the private car market and about 95% of the commercial vehicle market. Also, diesel's cheaper than gas. Here in Andalucia (one of the poorest, hence cheapest regions of Spain) 95 octane gas is $1.50 per litre ($5.68 per gallon), 98 octane is $1.70 a litre. Diesel is $1.35.

    I guess you can understand now how come Europe has reduced its fossil fuel consumption and chooses more economical engines.
    We were warned about it 35 years ago too. We are slow learners! In our defense, we had a movie star for president who said screw energy independence, party like its 1949!
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