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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Snowball Earth says otherwise.
    I was just about to bring that up -unfortunately that no ice caps prior to 15 million years ago bit stole every drop of potential credibility his post may have had and I merely skimmed the post from there.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    there was a warm period in the first few centuries BC when the Norse folk were able to discover and colonize Iceland
    Sorry to be pedantic, but the very earliest settlement of Iceland took place at the earliest during the mid-7th century.

    Interesting post although much evidence does exist that shows late-20th century trends to be far more significant and rapid than any natural cycle theory can explain.

    The anti-Gore demonisation campaign seems a little too convenient, allowing the "feathering their nest" argument to divert attention away from the scientific validity of the AGW argument. Over here in Europe no one takes much notice of Al Gore, he's certainly not seen as the leading proponent of the AGW case. Nevertheless, the debate continues over the science.

    Forget about Gore, make the scientific case.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

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    Excerpted from “2009: Second Warmest Year on Record; End of Warmest Decade,” NASA, 01.21.10
    2009 was tied for the second warmest year in the modern record, a new NASA analysis of global surface temperature shows. The analysis, conducted by the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) in New York City, also shows that in the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 was the warmest year since modern records began in 1880. …

    January 2000 to December 2009 was the warmest decade on record. Throughout the last three decades, the GISS surface temperature record shows an upward trend of about 0.2°C (0.36°F) per decade. Since 1880, the year that modern scientific instrumentation became available to monitor temperatures precisely, a clear warming trend is present, though there was a leveling off between the 1940s and 1970s. …
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The general balance of scientific opinion is in favour of global warming being real (although not meaning that everywhere will get warmer) and that human activity does contribute to it to some extent. If this is true then a lot of work needs to be done to reduce the production of greenhouse gases and reduce the use of fossil fuels.

    If by any chance climate change is NOT created or exacerbated by human activity then the reduction of the use of fossil fuels will not have damaged the climate in any way, it will have created a more balanced way of securing fuels for use domestically and industrially. In itself this would be a positive development. It would reduce our dependency on some less than savoury regimes (Saudi, Russia, Iran) and it would extend the life of the fossil resources that remain underground.

    I don't understand the antagonism towards developing alternatives to fossil fuels and towards reducing our dependence on the internal combustion engine... unless this antagonism is being driven by the oil and gas industry and the motor industry. Am I being paranoid, or am I missing some terrible consequences that these developments might bring?
    Because this isn't about energy, it's about socialism. It's called green socialism.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Because this isn't about energy, it's about socialism. It's called green socialism.
    how do you figure that?

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Only by people who don't understand science.
    Don't you mean the people who don't understand the politics?
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Because this isn't about energy, it's about socialism. It's called green socialism.
    That post is about up to your normal level of argument. It's not about science, it's not about energy policy, it's about reds under rednecks' beds.

    At least have the decency to explain your paranoid theories.

    ...actually, on second thoughts, don't.
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    how do you figure that?
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    Re: Is Global Warming a myth?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Snowball Earth says otherwise.
    From the first paragraph of your link:
    Snowball Earth refers to the hypothesis that the Earth's surface became nearly or entirely frozen over at least once during three periods between 650 and 750 million years ago. The geological community generally accepts this hypothesis because it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropical paleolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents to the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation, the geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean,[1][2] and the difficulty of escaping an all-frozen condition. There are a number of unanswered questions, including whether the Earth was a full snowball, or whether it was a "slushball" with a thin equatorial band of open (or seasonally open) water.
    As noted in your link, it is only hypothetical and is challenged by others who raise legitimate questions about the hypothesis. I wouldn't completely dismiss the possibility of a series of massive volcanic eruptions putting enough dust in the atmosphere to lower the temperature drastically for several centuries, but I do question whether such an event disproves my statement about general cooling.

    In your opinion, was The Year Without A Summer a climate event or a weather event?
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