View Poll Results: Is Social Justice legitimate?

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  • Yes, for equality of opportunity

    13 46.43%
  • Yes, for equality of outcome

    0 0%
  • Yes, for wealth redistribution

    4 14.29%
  • Yes, to reduce inequality

    6 21.43%
  • No, wealth redistribution is bad

    12 42.86%
  • No, it extends the utilitarianism and social contracts in un-useful ways

    10 35.71%
  • Other...

    4 14.29%
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Thread: Is Social Justice legitimate?

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It's probably much more likely because Libertarians are not promising free taxpayer money to the charity cause of their choice, be it personal charity or corporate charity.
    Or having no international policies other than 'let's pull out of the UN'. Or having no plans for the economy other than 'let the market deal with it'. Or having absolutely no clue as to how the world revolves outside of their own counties. But I'm sure it is because of personal charities.
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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Right.

    The idea is that socialist suck huge weinie and so do their ideas, and because they need to use machine guns to implement their ideas, they have to lie all the god damned time.

    Socialists whine that libertarians "don't have ideas" simply because the ideas libertarians have work, and don't need machine guns.

    The routine complaint from socialists, of course, is that no one else has any ideas because, well, what the hell, only socialists have brains. They don't use them except to construct elaborate lies to cover the failures of their earlier elaborate lies, but what the hell, the socialists believe only those elitists controlling their ideas can think.

    Naturally, every time a person threatens the socialist order of things, the very first attack from the socialists is "they're stupid, they don't have any ideas"

    Reagan was "senile"
    Dan Quayle was "stupid"
    GW Bush was a "moron", "idiot", "fool", and clearly dumber than Al Gore or Kerry.
    Sarah Palin is just some hick redneck broad from the Alaskan boondocks.

    But the Messiah! Well! He be a Hahvahd Law perfesser, don't ya know? He's gots dem ideas, and well, ya know, if it weren't for those dang stupid Republicans he'd have all those laws passed and we'd be rescued! Nobahdy be smahta than Obama!
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Libertarianism tells people they have to be adults.

    Republicans and especially Democrats tell people they can be lazy and the politician will still love them and care for them.

    People that don't want to grow up are legion. Adults are rare. It's no mystery why libertarians don't win elective office.
    Let me summarize your post :

    We do have ideas. Only nobody agrees with them thus you're all stupid and we're all smart.

    You've yet to disprove my point. Still waiting for you to reply to this btw :

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1058506199
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-12-10 at 10:03 PM.
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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Let me summarize your post :

    We do have ideas. Only nobody agrees with them thus you're all stupid and we're all smart.
    He answered it quite well.

    He said stop catering to every individual whim of a majority and let people suffer the consequences of their own actions.

    AKA treat them like adults.
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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    I have a question, I believe in equal opportunity but don't believe in wealth re-distribution but I don't want to vote for both because how can you answer yes and no?

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    He answered it quite well.
    Nope. He supported exactly what I said. Libertarians think everybody else is stupid but them. You're the ones who supposedly understand the constitution better than everybody. You're the ones who have no agenda whatsoever but somehow think everybody's agenda is stupid. As I said. Teenagers.
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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope. He supported exactly what I said. Libertarians think everybody else is stupid but them. You're the ones who supposedly understand the constitution better than everybody. You're the ones who have no agenda whatsoever but somehow think everybody's agenda is stupid. As I said. Teenagers.
    The agenda is, stop trying to have an agenda for everything.

    Most things don't need to be planned by the political elite.
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