View Poll Results: Is Social Justice legitimate?

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  • Yes, for equality of opportunity

    13 46.43%
  • Yes, for equality of outcome

    0 0%
  • Yes, for wealth redistribution

    4 14.29%
  • Yes, to reduce inequality

    6 21.43%
  • No, wealth redistribution is bad

    12 42.86%
  • No, it extends the utilitarianism and social contracts in un-useful ways

    10 35.71%
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    4 14.29%
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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes - the best way to get the elderly to vote for someone else is to mention that you want to do anything with medicare/SocSec that might be remotely related to a cut in benefits.

    For that matter, it need not be any sort of 'cut' at all - it only need be someting that your opponent can mis-charaterize as such.
    It is illuminating that it is not just those on the left that want handouts. Is it Social Justice?

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is illuminating that it is not just those on the left that want handouts. Is it Social Justice?
    Not sure I follow you...

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Actually, no... the progressive tax system is based on the idea that from each accroding to his means should be transfered to each according to his needs.

    After all, the "rich" dont "need" all that money, and the "poor" wont vote for anyone that doesn't offer hand-outs.
    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Kinda of like the elderly, when it comes to Medicare. I totally get it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes - the best way to get the elderly to vote for someone else is to mention that you want to do anything with medicare/SocSec that might be remotely related to a cut in benefits.

    For that matter, it need not be any sort of 'cut' at all - it only need be someting that your opponent can mis-charaterize as such.
    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    It is illuminating that it is not just those on the left that want handouts. Is it Social Justice?
    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Not sure I follow you...
    Many elderly are on the right, and they want to protect their hand-outs.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Many elderly are on the right, and they want to protect their hand-outs.
    I dont think that's really true.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I dont think that's really true.
    Which part?

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Which part?
    The part about the elderly leaning right.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Is getting paid 10 million dollars after bankrupting the company you were supposed to be leading legitimate? Most groups are out to grab a bigger slice of the pie one way or another. The rich and poor are not divided by their desire to hog more wealth, but rather their skill at it.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The part about the elderly leaning right.
    I am not very good at Googling election data. I was searching on "election results by age" and what not. I kept getting news stories and no statistical data site. I finally searched on "exit polls" and picked CNN.

    Election Center 2008: Primary Results - Elections & Politics news from CNN.com

    This is for Virginia. It is for the 2008 primaries. If you look at the relative percentages by age, you will see that Democrats have:

    Total Voters: 977,586
    • 17-29: 14%
    • 30-44: 27%
    • 45-59: 34%
    • 60+: 25%

    So number of voters, 60+: 244,397 or 62% of the total voters 60+

    and the Republicans have:

    Total Voters: 465,831
    • 17-29: 11%
    • 30-44: 26%
    • 45-59: 31%
    • 60+: 32%

    So number of voters, 60+: 149,066 or 38% of the total voters 60+

    Understanding it is just a Primary, it seems Dems outweigh GOP by 3 to 2.

    My point is that a large number of that 38% elderly GOP wants to protect Medicare for themselves.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I am not very good at Googling election data. I was searching on "election results by age" and what not. I kept getting news stories and no statistical data site. I finally searched on "exit polls" and picked CNN....
    Your sample is incredibly small and doesnt show what you need it to show.

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    Re: Is Social Justice legitimate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I dont think that's really true.
    No, that's pretty much true.

    OPM is very addictive.

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