View Poll Results: Where does personal identity come from?

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  • The cells in my body

    9 22.50%
  • The neurons in my brain

    13 32.50%
  • The molecules in my brain

    7 17.50%
  • The information pattern in my brain

    13 32.50%
  • My five basic senses

    9 22.50%
  • My soul, life force, or something else metaphysical

    18 45.00%
  • Other

    15 37.50%
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    yes and yes
    Well that is where we will have to disagree. I don't think identity changes. YOu are who you are. You don't become someone else.

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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    Well that is where we will have to disagree. I don't think identity changes. YOu are who you are. You don't become someone else.
    I think attributes might change, but someone's identity is still their identity. There is an immutable part and a variable part.

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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I think attributes might change, but someone's identity is still their identity. There is an immutable part and a variable part.
    EXACTLY. I view the immutable part as your identity and the variable part as your personality.

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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    I think the information pattern in my brain is the only thing that could logically make me me. It can't be genetics; if I have a twin or clone myself, we're still different people. It can't be individual cells or molecules in our body; those are dying and being replaced all the time. And I don't even think it's our sensory perception, as you could theoretically mimic my senses through a virtual reality device, but I think we would still be different people.

    I think the information pattern in our brains is the only thing unique about us. That includes sensory input, but also includes our memories and thought processes.
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I think the information pattern in my brain is the only thing that could logically make me me. It can't be genetics; if I have a twin or clone myself, we're still different people. It can't be individual cells or molecules in our body; those are dying and being replaced all the time. And I don't even think it's our sensory perception, as you could theoretically mimic my senses through a virtual reality device, but I think we would still be different people.

    I think the information pattern in our brains is the only thing unique about us. That includes sensory input, but also includes our memories and thought processes.
    Your right but that is all built from senses and genetics.

    The information pattern is assembled from those things.
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Your right but that is all built from senses and genetics.

    The information pattern is assembled from those things.
    As well as experiences. Everything that you know and think make you who you are.

    The best example of this, I think, is twins. People with as close to the same DNA as possible. They look, talk, and sound the same. But, they can have fundamentally different personalities.
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    God. It's obvious.

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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they do not have the same identity. i am married to an identical twin.
    Isn't that incest?
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Your life experiences, your responses to them, and especially your memories are a large part of who you are as a person. Meeting someone with advanced Alzheimers shows a house that is no longer occupied by the owner.
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    Re: Where does personal identity come from?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Isn't that incest?
    No, liblady's husband has an identical twin, if I'm getting it right.
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