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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

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    Thanks a lot for correcting me my left wing friend.I am not very good with that type stuff.....
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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Isn't a tax deduction basically a coupon or rebate? So yes we are paying for it.
    Technically, yes, but you're not paying for the whole thing or even most of it.

    I deduct my office expenses from my income and then pay taxes on my income. Does that mean that the taxpayer paid for my office expenses?

    And I deduct my medical bills that are over a certain amount as allowed by law. There is a minimum, and all I get to do is deduct them on a different schedule, and then deduct that from my income up to a certain maximum along with other deductions such as mortgage payments -- so all I really get to deduct is a small percentage of my medical bills.

    Even so, I am starting to understand the argument, after reading the article. Apparently the court held that, like other mental conditions which are treatable and deductable, "gender identity crisis" should be covered, as it is not a "cosmetic" surgery. No one chooses to have this condition, nor does anyone choose the operation lightly. I guess the point is that if you cover other operations and treatments done for mental reasons then you have to cover them all....

    Now comes the range of anger from certain posters here who are convinced that every person who has gender identity questions or who is gay chose to be that way. I'll roll my eyes in advance and ignore those comments when they come.
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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    I voted no, but can see an exception. The punishment for a second offense by a rapist should be that they get the first half of the operation at govt expense, the removal of all offending body parts....
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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Technically, yes, but you're not paying for the whole thing or even most of it.

    I deduct my office expenses from my income and then pay taxes on my income. Does that mean that the taxpayer paid for my office expenses?

    And I deduct my medical bills that are over a certain amount as allowed by law. There is a minimum, and all I get to do is deduct them on a different schedule, and then deduct that from my income up to a certain maximum along with other deductions such as mortgage payments -- so all I really get to deduct is a small percentage of my medical bills.

    Even so, I am starting to understand the argument, after reading the article. Apparently the court held that, like other mental conditions which are treatable and deductable, "gender identity crisis" should be covered, as it is not a "cosmetic" surgery. No one chooses to have this condition, nor does anyone choose the operation lightly. I guess the point is that if you cover other operations and treatments done for mental reasons then you have to cover them all....

    Now comes the range of anger from certain posters here who are convinced that every person who has gender identity questions or who is gay chose to be that way. I'll roll my eyes in advance and ignore those comments when they come.
    A very good point and one I hadn't even thought of, much less considered until you mentioned it.

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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Only if government funds start paying for plastic surgery.

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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    I been thinkin about getting a little "reduction" work done my self. I'm tired of bruising my knees when I run.
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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Gender identity crisis is not a purely mental problem. There are physical, hormonal, and genetic reasons for "feeling like a (wo)man" when your genitalia represent another.

    Someone who's case is severe enough to where a therapist prescribes surgery and hormone treatment, I don't see why not. Let the doctor decide is my default position on anything health related, since I've nowhere near the medical expertise to override them.

    Some people do have reasons for feeling they should be the other gender.

    Of course, some people are just crazy too.

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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This subject came up at my coffee clutch today so I was curious how the members of the forum felt about it?
    No bleeping way !!! It's an option. PAY FOR YOUR OWN OPTIONS !!
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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    No bleeping way !!! It's an option. PAY FOR YOUR OWN OPTIONS !!
    For some people it is pretty much necessary for their mental stability due to hormonal and genetic abnormalities.

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    Re: Should sex change operations be paid for by Gov. funds?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    I been thinkin about getting a little "reduction" work done my self. I'm tired of bruising my knees when I run.
    My man boobs don't even hang half that far!
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