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  • Yes, science is very corrupt

    4 11.76%
  • Yes, science is somewhat corrupt

    5 14.71%
  • Yes, science is corrupt and bias

    0 0%
  • No, science cannot be corrupt because it deals with observation

    4 11.76%
  • No, science is not corrupt

    22 64.71%
  • All science is flawed

    3 8.82%
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Like so many others have said, science is not, and cannot be corrupt. It is just a methodology. Scientists on the other hand, are human, and subject to the same flaws the rest of us are.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by jr602az View Post
    Real Scientist is not corrupt but the Scientist is corrupt by the Government.
    This statement is nonsense.
    The scientist as a man can be corrupted by fear and ignorance.

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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    All science is flawed. Science cannot build accurate models of reality as it requires too many assumptions.
    The existence of fallible models does not brand science as flawed. There are restrictions to models, but models are by definition a representation of the actual.

    We should only conclude that there is no credible dogmatic principle in science, and that all science should be vigorously tested and retested, as per definition science can be the subject of the only flawed in this equation... humaness.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    If science is corrupt then you might as well get rid of everything you own. It's all the result of science. From the clothes you own to the computer your use and the contact lenses you wear. Science is everywhere. Calling it "corrupt" suggests most of us support this corruption without little issue.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    No.
    Flawed means that there is something wrong with already understood science. Since we are talking about "Sience" as a field "flawed" is a bad description. Incomplete means that there is a lack of understanding as yet in many areas but doesn't ignore the areas of understanding we already have, nor does it throw out the methods of getting there.
    An incomplete picture of reality is flawed.

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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If science is corrupt then you might as well get rid of everything you own. It's all the result of science. From the clothes you own to the computer your use and the contact lenses you wear. Science is everywhere. Calling it "corrupt" suggests most of us support this corruption without little issue.
    Over the top.

    Saying science can be corrupted is not saying it all is, or it should be thrown out.

    We are saying the data or findings can be corrupt. This in essence makes the science involved corrupt as well.

    Anything else is just semantics.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    I didn't say it was incorrect, just not the most suitable. One co-opts items to fit an agenda or a scheme or plan usually only the "good bits" are used. That does not mean that the item itself is incorrect lacking in integrity or all of the above. Just the method in which its used is.
    In your opinion, which in the grand scheme counts for little. Mine is just as valid and no less suitable.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    An incomplete picture of reality is flawed.
    Not flawed, limited.

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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Not corrupt, nor bias or even biased. Biased biased biased.

    " Bias is a term used to describe a tendency or preference towards a particular perspective, ideology or result, when the tendency interferes with the ability to be impartial, unprejudiced, or objective.[1]. In other words, bias is generally seen as a 'one-sided' perspective. The term biased refers to a person or group who is judged to exhibit bias.
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    Re: Is science corrupt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Over the top.
    Not at all. If I say religion is corrupt, I am talking about all religion. Not just Christianity or Islam. Do you agree? Or do you not? If you call "science" corrupt. Then you are calling out the "corruption" of science itself. Not of a particular scientist. You can't pick an choose when you use such wording.

    Saying science can be corrupted is not saying it all is, or it should be thrown out.
    But that is not what the OP is asking :

    Quote Originally Posted by OP
    Is science corrupt?
    We are saying the data or findings can be corrupt. This in essence makes the science involved corrupt as well.

    Anything else is just semantics.
    Creationism and the people who promote it are corrupt. Science itself isn't.
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