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    Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Depending on the sevarity of the crime yes they should be able to try adolecents as adults, like murder, theft, or something to that affect. If it is minor, there is not much to be worried about, but to stop a life of crime punish them.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Iwa View Post
    Depending on the sevarity of the crime yes they should be able to try adolecents as adults, like murder, theft, or something to that affect. If it is minor, there is not much to be worried about, but to stop a life of crime punish them.
    No. If we, as a society, have decided on an age of adulthood because it's the age when people are able to make responsible decisions...then why would we try juveniles as adults? That is saying that they fully understood the ramifications of what they were doing.

    So 17-year-olds are too irresponsible to vote, to smoke/drink, to enter into legal contracts, to gamble, etc...but they are just as aware as an adult of the ramifications of committing crimes?

    Absolutely not. Juveniles should be tried as juveniles. Adults should be tried as adults.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Not with how our system is set up.

    Currently we have just 2 groups: juvenile delinquents and the adult prison system.

    There is nothing, though, for juveniles who commit adult crimes - and there should be. There should be a 1/2 way area for those sentenced in such a way, away from the other lesser-degree offenders and also away from the adult prison population.

    I think that trying them as adults - and sticking them in an adult facility - is absurd.

    Would an adult ever be tried as a juvenile for any reason or sent to a juvenile detention facility? Nope - so why is it the other way around.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Not with how our system is set up.

    Currently we have just 2 groups: juvenile delinquents and the adult prison system.

    There is nothing, though, for juveniles who commit adult crimes - and there should be. There should be a 1/2 way area for those sentenced in such a way, away from the other lesser-degree offenders and also away from the adult prison population.

    I think that trying them as adults - and sticking them in an adult facility - is absurd.

    Would an adult ever be tried as a juvenile for any reason or sent to a juvenile detention facility? Nope - so why is it the other way around.
    the 1/2 way point is a decent idea.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    It's unfortunate - but it's becoming necessary, really.

    Kids didn't use to kill other children and adults intentionally in the numbers that they do now. Yes, it did happen, but now it's becoming more and more common.

    But there's also a maturity/social expectation that has changed - 100 years ago, for example, a 15 year old was practically an adult and lived as such. In modern times, though, 15 years is still considered underage - emotionally and developmentally - teens are leaving home later and later, so the line of 'on your own' is shifting and so the criminal system needs to adapt to our changing social and cultural condition.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Depends on the nature of the crime, the juvie's record, and his age.

    Given that totally retarded school officials are willing to suspend a seven year old boy for carrying a two inch plastic Lego gun (a "deadly" weapon?), the law (written by legislators, not judges) must be carefully crafted. Otherwise they'll be letting 17 year old rapists go and putting 7 year old Boy Scouts with a picture of an axe in his Boy Scout Manual in prison for life.

    ADULTS who compel kids to commit crimes should be sentenced for the maximum adult sentence that crime would carry, and get an extra ten years, to be served sequentially.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's unfortunate - but it's becoming necessary, really.

    Kids didn't use to kill other children and adults intentionally in the numbers that they do now. Yes, it did happen, but now it's becoming more and more common.

    But there's also a maturity/social expectation that has changed - 100 years ago, for example, a 15 year old was practically an adult and lived as such. In modern times, though, 15 years is still considered underage - emotionally and developmentally - teens are leaving home later and later, so the line of 'on your own' is shifting and so the criminal system needs to adapt to our changing social and cultural condition.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Judges should not legislate from the bench - they should judge within the laws written by the legislation system.

    What you really mean is that legislators should consult and consider the advice of those who are qualified to make these judgment calls within the criminal justice system.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Yes it should, though it should be relatively rare. There are situations(repeat offenders who are a threat to those around them mostly) where it is beneficial to do so.
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    Re: Should the government be allowed to sentence juvenilles as adults?

    Yes. The idea that victims are somehow less deserving of justice because the offender is a minor is absurd. I am not saying we should throw a minor into an adult prison but he can stay at a juvenile facility until he turns 18 and then throw his ass into an adult prison.
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