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Thread: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    They said Israel should be wiped off the map.
    If Iran's leaders decide to attack Israel, in any way, shape or form, that's going to be a very sad day for the people of Iran.

    Iran's leaders say a lot of stupid things. That doesn't give the United States the authority to control Iran's military.
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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Then I suppose you won't be upset if Israel says it will attack Iran.
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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Israel may have a high quality military and sophisticated intelligence agencies. But those who believe that the Israelies could just sweep in and take out the Iranian facilities may be a little deluded. This is bit bigger of an udertaking than Entebbe or the Iraq reactor. And Iran has already taken a number of defensive actions to mitigate the Israeli threat.
    By my reckoning, there are 15 Iranian nuclear facilities that would need to be destroyed to significantly turn back Iran's nuclear-progress-clock.

    Israel has a full-spectrum military. The problem is not so much one of Israel's capability, but the Iranian (and international) response to an Israeli application of full-spectrum power.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then I suppose you won't be upset if Israel says it will attack Iran.
    No, with proper justification. Israel is free to do whatever they need to do to defend themselves. If they are attacked by Iran in anyway, then they should respond in kind. Every nation has the right to self defense.
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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    They are on record as stating that they would like to destroy Israel. They have supported Islamic terrorists with weapons and aid. Nobody was about to attack them until they started pursuing nuclear weapons.

    I doubt this is just about deterring some non-existent nuclear threat to them.
    I'm sorry the nuclear threats against Iran are as real and legitimate as iran's potential nuclear threat against any other nations.

    Their political chest thumping doesn't mean much in the face of political power playing and positioning.

    Seeking nukes is about the smartest thing they can do.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I'm sorry the nuclear threats against Iran are as real and legitimate as iran's potential nuclear threat against any other nations.
    Oh? And who has threatened to nuke Iran unprovoked?

    Their political chest thumping doesn't mean much in the face of political power playing and positioning.
    And do we really want to take the risk of assuming that? If we do, and we're wrong, millions could end up dead. I don't see why we shouldn't think that their explicitly stated threats are, well, explicitly stated threats.

    Seeking nukes is about the smartest thing they can do.
    Dumbest, actually, since they will almost certainly be attacked if they get them.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    No, not the dumbest they've built alot of their nuclear infrastructure underground so when bush threatened them with a tactical bunker buster nuke (which he did), he was actually threatening to irradiate a portion of their country, because they are too deep to hit (thank russia). Now think about that, also think about the fact that Israel doesn't have the capability to perform a satisfactory strike to disarm them of their nuclear infrastructure.

    I'm not willing to believe that they would commit state suicide just to kill alot of jews.

    Theres your beliefs, then theories about laws which govern the nature of international gameplay.

    And whoever attacks them conventionally once they have a nuke is the idiot who escalated to nuclear war and will be seen as the fascist aggressor by history. A conventional attack would be unthinkable once they acquired a nuke.... which is the nukes purpose....

    Theres a huge chance that the US (which experiences only moderate state stability) would be willing to perform an attack as they have manufactured reasons to go to war more than once in history at the advent of a more extremist 'conservative' government.

    Just in case you didn't notice, they are surrounded by perceived occupiers of their neighboring countries.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    BBC News - Iran makes new uranium enrichment challenge

    Now choose the option you feel appropriate in the poll.
    Do you think an armed assault by NATO is due? Surely such a thing is inevitable, if this hard liner insists on dragging down Iran with him.
    All I know is Hussein Obama promised dialog, open talks with Iranian leader, but like the rest, they were just promises to get people's votes.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by rytis View Post
    All I know is Hussein Obama promised dialog, open talks with Iranian leader, but like the rest, they were just promises to get people's votes.
    Obama's just another sock puppet.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Israel may have a high quality military and sophisticated intelligence agencies. But those who believe that the Israelies could just sweep in and take out the Iranian facilities may be a little deluded. This is bit bigger of an udertaking than Entebbe or the Iraq reactor. And Iran has already taken a number of defensive actions to mitigate the Israeli threat.

    The Iranian nuclear situation is a complex/messy one. And don't suspect there are going to be any quick or easy answers.
    The thing is, Isreal wouldn't stop until they did take out those nuclear weapons, and that might mean resorting to their own WMD's if they cannot take the weapons out conventionally. Therefore, this supports the idea that Iran would not want to actually build the nuclear weapons, just get them ready to be built.
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