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Thread: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The entire purpose of Israel was to be a homeland to Jews. If they all come back to Europe, there is no need for Israel's existence no? It would achieve nothing.
    And then they can return again when the homeland is safe
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    They gathered in such great numbers in Israel "again" because of the situation in Europe. It wouldnt matter if many of them(who decide) move back, and let some other people(with military tools) move down there to protect their "holy land". Its not only Jewish holy land, but also Christian holy land.
    I'm consumed by your insightful take on the issue, I really am, but I believe Israelis are more than capable of defending their own nation, simultaneously, from 5 different nations.
    As proven in the 1948 and 1967 wars.
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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You asked if sanctions have ever worked and you got an answer that yes they have
    And my response was; "is that it?". Do you know how many current regimes are sanctioned, do you know how many HAVE been sanctioned, and yet you can only name me one?

    Sarkozy is a bit of a populist and war's can be very popular
    Not disastrous, as they still won the majority of local elections in 2009. Not as well as they hoped of course but it was not disastrous (like the 2008 US elections were for the Republican party in the US)
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    What gives you the impression it would be a popular decisions to nuke a country?

    Neither, the problems of the recent economic crisis have not been fixed, they are still there. Bad debts in the banking system, massive governmental debt which are increasing, higher unemployement numbers
    Okay but its still an assumption.

    Means that the small uptick we are seeing is just a temporary reprive, generally due to massive governmental stimulus, rather then sustainable economic growth.

    With the UK government finally ending QE, and the Fed thinking about withdrawing it, the next leg downward is coming
    And the world will end in 2012. You dont know about these things until they happen, they certainly havent been forseen by national governments and havent been adopted as something which has a great percentage chance of occuring so i wont buy your word for it either.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Come on Tashah, you can do better than that.
    Indeed. My axe is still in the shop however

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Because Iran has opted for the complete destruction of a neighbouring nation as official state policy, because Iran is incapable of civilized diplomacy, and because Iran is one of the worst violators of human rights. Therefore such rights for a country to pursue nuclear ambitions becomes unrealistic if they cannot even be trusted to not drop them all over the ME.
    I couldn't have stated it any better.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Amazingly ... I agree with Vader. A hit on Iran would be logistically met with lots of cooperation. But Israel has to be ready to back up airstrikes ... and I'm not sure they're ready to do that right now.
    There is a reason that the US has an entire fleet of ships in the Perisan Gulf. Iran is aware their little pissant Navy is no match for ours.

    One wrong move from Iran and their southern most seaports will be reduced to rubble.

    The oil routes WILL be secure from Iranian interference ... even if that means the destruction of costal targets such as Bandar-e-Abbas, Bandar e-Lengeh, Chah Bahar, and Jask, Ney Banda, Dayybar, Busheher, Qeshem, and the whole nine yards.

    The Strait of Hormuz WILL remain open ... Iranian interference WILL NOT be tolerated.... even the slightest attempt will be met with a rather large global foot being forced up Iran's terrorist-loving ass.
    Last edited by Vader; 02-07-10 at 02:10 PM.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    And my response was; "is that it?". Do you know how many current regimes are sanctioned, do you know how many HAVE been sanctioned, and yet you can only name me one?
    Want another one, Libya, Chile under Pinochet,


    What gives you the impression it would be a popular decisions to nuke a country?
    I said war not nuke

    Okay but its still an assumption.



    And the world will end in 2012. You dont know about these things until they happen, they certainly havent been forseen by national governments and havent been adopted as something which has a great percentage chance of occuring so i wont buy your word for it either.
    Did I say the world will end?

    No, just that the current economic crisis which is giving the appearance of going away is not we will be hit by a second leg downward.

    You dont have to wait untill things happen to know they will occur. The only thing that i cant predict is when the second leg down will occur, but that it will is a given

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    First

    Why are you sure that Iran is pursuing nuclear weapons ( all evidence so far presented has been faked)
    I'm basing my concern on the fact that they don't comply with IAEA requirements. If they did that, I'd not object.

    Secondly China tends not to support foreign intervention in any countries internal affairs through the US. Bad memories from the late 1800 and early 1900 when it suffered under the drug pushing UK and other nations
    They don't have to support anything. They can abstain. Besides, no one is asking them to support military action.
    Last edited by Rassales; 02-07-10 at 03:10 PM.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Rassales View Post
    I'm basing my concern on the fact that they don't comply with IAEA requirements. If they did that, I'd not object.

    They don't have to support anything. They can abstain. Besides, no one is asking them to support military action.
    Which IAEA requirements have they not met?

    IAEA requirements and just IAEA requirements

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Which IAEA requirements have they not met?

    IAEA requirements and just IAEA requirements
    They have not cooperated fully with IAEA inspectors. They have not reported all their facilities to the IAEA.

    Their program is shrouded in secrecy, which would not be necessary if they were only seeking nuclear power. Their actions demonstrate that they are either pursuing nuclear weapons or they would like to appear to be doing so.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    I think it's time to make STRONG diplomatic decisions regarding Iran, and if those don't work we need to take military action. We should learn from history and specifically with what happened with North Korea and how Europe was soft on Hitler, allowing him to arm up and start a massive war. Things need to be done, the world needs to stand up and stop all this pc crap and take some strong sanctions and threaten military action against the theocratic crazy regime called Iran.

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