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Thread: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    France what?
    Wait, are you surprised it oversee's Africa? I mean, they did screw it up down there. French forces are engaged in its territories abroad, in NATO its contribution isn't that great. The UK contributes far more and has much more credibility in attacking Iran alone. I find it very hard to believe France would press any button without the US doing it first. Sorry, but its how it is. I didnt see Europe step a foot in the ME until the Americans did it first.
    France isnt in NATO man... Geez..
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Of course they can. They have nuclear weapons and the most advanced military in the ME.

    The problem is, if they do, they need the backing of most of the world to handle the backlash of some creepy arab alliance that will act against Israel as a response to their "unreasonable" attack against Iran, and Israeli/American "imperialism".
    WRONG.

    The Egyptians have already given Israel permission to fly through their airspace to hit Iran. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?

    The Saudis hate Iran as much as the rest of the world does. Iran's only real ally is Syria. Syria and the babbling moron who runs it are no match for Israel. Israel will reduce Syria to a smoldering dung heap.

    NOBODY in the middle east wants Iran to have nuclear arms.... NOBODY. There will be public condemnation but that is as far is it will go.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalGear View Post
    Is one regime all you could name? There are currently tons of regimes with UN sanctions. North Korea probably the most obvious one, and look, they are sending rockets to space.
    You asked if sanctions have ever worked and you got an answer that yes they have

    And with the public opinion on Iraq with the Iraq inquiry, do you think Britain will ever be able to garner enough Parliamentary support to declare war on Iran? To be honest, i highly doubt a UK and French offensive would ever be successful anyway. The UK and France would never even consider war with Iran (or any other European power for that matter) without going in side by side with the Americans.

    I also cant see Americans being so vocal on the issue and actually not touching a war in the event it did break out.



    What about him? France isnt nearly as vocal or pressing on the issue as Germany and there hardly American bootlickers.
    Sarkozy is a bit of a populist and war's can be very popular

    I dont know but i heard the last elections where disastrous for them.

    Not disastrous, as they still won the majority of local elections in 2009. Not as well as they hoped of course but it was not disastrous (like the 2008 US elections were for the Republican party in the US)


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    Neither, the problems of the recent economic crisis have not been fixed, they are still there. Bad debts in the banking system, massive governmental debt which are increasing, higher unemployement numbers

    Means that the small uptick we are seeing is just a temporary reprive, generally due to massive governmental stimulus, rather then sustainable economic growth.

    With the UK government finally ending QE, and the Fed thinking about withdrawing it, the next leg downward is coming

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    France isnt in NATO man... Geez..
    The french surrendered during the opening fireworks salvo at Euro-Disney.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    The problem is, if they do, they need the backing of most of the world to handle the backlash of some creepy arab alliance that will act against Israel as a response to their "unreasonable" attack against Iran, and Israeli/American "imperialism".
    Yeah see that is where the problem would lie.
    The world would not 'back' Israel in such an attack


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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Talk and action are two entirely different things.
    Talks that practically promote actions are a good start.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

    Dante Alighieri

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    WRONG.

    The Egyptians have already given Israel permission to fly through their airspace to hit Iran. WHAT DOES THIS TELL YOU?

    The Saudis hate Iran as much as the rest of the world does. Iran's only real ally is Syria. Syria and the babbling moron who runs it are no match for Israel. Israel will reduce Syria to a smoldering dung heap.

    NOBODY in the middle east wants Iran to have nuclear arms.... NOBODY. There will be public condemnation but that is as far is it will go.

    Amazingly ... I agree with Vader. A hit on Iran would be logistically met with lots of cooperation. But Israel has to be ready to back up airstrikes ... and I'm not sure they're ready to do that right now.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I don't know, let's begin with something that would not require the the scattering of the Jewish citizens of Israel at the disapora again, it pretty much goes against the purpose of Israel's establishment you know.
    They gathered in such great numbers in Israel "again" because of the situation in Europe. It wouldnt matter if many of them(who decide) move back, and let some other people(with military tools) move down there to protect their "holy land". Its not only Jewish holy land, but also Christian holy land.
    Europe is illegally occupied by the US

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    France isnt in NATO man... Geez..
    BBC NEWS | Europe | France ends four-decade Nato rift

    The plan is to join, if they havent already. They need to start acting like a NATO member....geez.

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    Re: Iran orders more enrichment, prompting US to call for the world to stand together

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    If I was Isreal, I would encourage the people to move back into Europe, to spread the risk, and then use Israel as a western "base" for western interference in the middle east, Africa and central Asia.
    The entire purpose of Israel was to be a homeland to Jews. If they all come back to Europe, there is no need for Israel's existence no? It would achieve nothing.


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