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Thread: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I never said the government is always wrong or that they are the root of all evil. I do not trust the government to only use the DNA for so-called research and non nefarious reasons. I think the government will use this as a stepping stone to expand its power.
    So basically you do not trust them with anything. Thats close enough to being evil, and wrong.
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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    I have a certain level of distrust about how this DNA may be used too (with good historical basis to back me up). But that doesn't matter anyway. Nobody should be collecting DNA without informed consent, period, regardless of what they do with it or might do with it.

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    I would like to see a national dna database in the UK for many reasons, the primary one is to catch rapists.

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    I would like to see a national dna database in the UK for many reasons, the primary one is to catch rapists.
    How will DNA help catch rapist? The only thing DNA would prove is that they had sex not rape, unless you are talking about statutory rape. Rape cases is usually a matter of he said she said.
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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    So basically you do not trust them with anything.
    I trust them with some things but that trust is only limited. Every American should have a limited trust in their government. They won't adequately secure the border,they have been working year after year to restrict the 2nd amendment, the government spies on people in certain places with cameras and many other things. Why should I have a blind trust in them? I can easily see the government this DNA database for things other than research ,I can see the government using this DNA database as a stepping stone for requiring everyone to submit a DNA sample, I can see them years down the road to maybe secretly using this DNA database for eugenics purposes or maybe planting evidence. It is not the government's job or anyone's to store DNA.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, repeter is talking about research.
    Much like organ donation, or donating your body to science once you die - shouldn't this be something that a person would have to donate?
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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear but fear itself.
    When did you turn a shade of Neo? Or are you being cheeky?
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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How will DNA help catch rapist? The only thing DNA would prove is that they had sex not rape, unless you are talking about statutory rape. Rape cases is usually a matter of he said she said.
    was I gender specific j/rags, if you reply to me don't be, I used the term rapist to encompass all types of rape, only a twerp would not see that, and I don't think you are a twerp.

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    Re: Should the government store DNA of law abiding citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    So basically you do not trust them with anything. Thats close enough to being evil, and wrong.
    This wasn't directed toward me, but I'd like to give my two cents if I may.

    I don't trust the government with much of anything, no.

    We have seen what they do with our tax dollars, we see how their misappropriation of military and financial power and resources affects us all, and I am of the thought that the less they have to do with me as an individual, the better.

    The last thing I want them to have at their disposal, is a mass holding of the citizenry's DNA.
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