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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Why should there be separate showers for gay men and straight men?
    For the same reason that men and women shower separately.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No, not because they are different sexes, the correct answer would be because there is a sexual attraction between each of the groups to the other.

    Sexual attraction is distracting and damages the efficiency of the soldiers in doing their roles, and that is why females and males do not use the same showers (when possible), and the same is correct about any other two groups where at least one group is attracted to the other.
    But gay men and straight men are already showering together. Why should that change if they end DADT?
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    No, not because they are different sexes, the correct answer would be because there is a sexual attraction between each of the groups to the other.

    Sexual attraction is distracting and damages the efficiency of the soldiers in doing their roles, and that is why females and males do not use the same showers (when possible), and the same is correct about any other two groups where at least one group is attracted to the other.
    According to which studies again? Is there evidence that the efficiency of the soldiers is currently being damaged?

    I finding it somewhat disturbing to think that we are entrusting the security of our nation to people we don't think capable of taking a shower with other people in a mature fashion.

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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    For the same reason that men and women shower separately.
    What reason is that?
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Really? Are they so distracted they can't perform their jobs? Are they so distracted they can't shower?

    How exactly are they distracted?
    Please cease this purposeless argument, gays will be distracted because they will be sexually attracted to the other males and would not be able to work in a clear mind.

    The same goes for straight women who will be taking showers with men, or for straight males who will be taking showers with females, etc etc.

    If that is not obvious to you then certainly it is a problem that you must deal with.
    And why would they be more distracted if everyone knew they were gay? Would that somehow make them even gayer?
    Who said that they'd be more distracted?
    It would just be formally dealt with, since the existence of homosexuality in the military would be recognized.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    What reason is that?
    You are breaking Rule #4. Why don't you admit you have no answer, it's quite obvious why certain categories of individuals shouldn't be house together.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    According to which studies again? Is there evidence that the efficiency of the soldiers is currently being damaged?

    I finding it somewhat disturbing to think that we are entrusting the security of our nation to people we don't think capable of taking a shower with other people in a mature fashion.
    THANK YOU!

    It's amazing isn't it? We're gonna let gay men drive Multi-Million dollar tanks, fly jets, and maintain nuclear weapons. But we're scared of letting them shower with straight guys...

    Yeah, that makes sense.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Panache View Post
    According to which studies again? Is there evidence that the efficiency of the soldiers is currently being damaged?
    The military didn't need studies to know that, and neither did I.
    It's called common sense and I love using it all day long.
    I finding it somewhat disturbing to think that we are entrusting the security of our nation to people we don't think capable of taking a shower with other people in a mature fashion.
    I find it natural.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You are breaking Rule #4. Why don't you admit you have no answer, it's quite obvious why certain categories of individuals shouldn't be house together.

    If it's quite obvious then tell me? And I admit I don't have an answer, that's why I keep asking you. You keep hinting at something as if it's a secret.

    So give me the answer already.

    Why can't gay men and straight men shower together? They're already doing it.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    In that case men and women should be housed together, roomed together and shower together. They're all professionals.
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