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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    If we civilians can do it and the military folks can't, then we civilians MUST be better caliber people. Apparently the military does some ****ty training, if we're to believe you and others who speak the same nonsense.

    Sounds to me like the military needs to train people better, or recruit more grown ups.
    I think we all know and agree that many of our nation's best and brightest are wearing uniforms tonight in the service of our country. And you are absolutely right. All surveys I have seen express that an overwhelming landslide, majority of the people, questioned in the military, suggests that our men and women in uniform would have no problem serving side-by-side with gays.

    But beyond the smoke, it's really not about the military to the nay-sayers. That's just a "rightous" cloaking vehicle to air their dissent of the advancement of homosexual rights, human-courtesy's and liberties. Some people truly have a problem with that. Why? Don't ask me. Don't make sense to me either. But some folks.... well.

    But so what. Twenty years ago, folks with this mindset were plentiful. Ten years ago, not so much. Today, barely enough to make a stink. Five years ahead, they will be a fart in a whirlwind. Change takes time. But change is obvious. These folks who are so anti-gay in their ideologies are losing. They know it. They hate it. Any means or oppertunity for them to plant their seeds will not be an oppertunity wasted.

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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    That has nothing to do with your ability or lack thereof to give a 'well thought out answer'.

    There are plenty of civilian contractors in theater who don't have issues working away from home around opposite gender and sexual orientations. So the whole 'away from home' thing isn't going to hold water with me, or likely anyone else. If a person cannot control themselves and are too distracted by sex to do their job, then they really have no business in our military.
    It is not a question of "able" or "not able".
    That is a military policy, effecting military personnel, AKA, soldiers.

    If the military feels that this is a distraction, then it would take care of it.

    A soldier's work starts the moment he's being recruited and ends the moment he's being released.
    A civilian has a termed frame time of work, where he has to center on his job and avoid distractions.
    A soldier needs to center on his job for his entire conscious time, and will avoid distractions as long as he's in uniform.

    If we are to draw a conclusion from that that soldiers are less capable of normal civilians, we are to mock the intelligence of mankind as a specie and as individuals, as the two issues are, simply, incomparable.

    Finally, when you claim that you are of a better caliber than a person who risks his life for your continued living, you, unavoidably, earn the disrespect of many people.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    If the military feels that this is a distraction, then it would take care of it.
    I beg to differ. I served on a base with 10,000 sailors. 900 were women. You think I wasn't distracted? Did the Navy send the women packing?

    If what you said were true, the women would be the more distracting since most all sailors are hetro sexual. If what you said were true, the military would have "taken care" of that distraction.

    Epic fail.

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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I beg to differ. I served on a base with 10,000 sailors. 900 were women. You think I wasn't distracted? Did the Navy send the women packing?
    A few posts back, I have stated that the military's policy is to avoid such distractions when possible.

    Obviously it isn't going to make women disappear from the military bases, but it isn't going to allow shared showers between males and females.

    "Epic fail".
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    A few posts back, I have stated that the military's policy is to avoid such distractions when possible.

    Obviously it isn't going to make women disappear from the military bases, but it isn't going to allow shared showers between males and females.

    "Epic fail".
    As far fetched as this sounds, the way things are going, I wouldn't be too sure of that. (We can always hope. )

    But one thing you can be sure of, the gays will eventually get their due.

    From one epic failure to another, you can bet on that.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    As far fetched as this sounds, the way things are going, I wouldn't be too sure of that. (We can always hope.)

    But one thing you can be sure of, the gays will eventually get their due.
    As a person who's voted "yes" on this poll I sure do hope that.
    From one epic failure to another, you can bet on that.
    Now you're just acting silly, you have made nothing in this specific post that could be even considered a smack(even an attempt at a smack), even in your damaged opinion.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    As a person who's voted "yes" on this poll I sure do hope that.
    Now you're just acting silly, you have made nothing in this specific post that could be even considered a smack(even an attempt at a smack), even in your damaged opinion.
    You'll forgive me if I remain picky as to whom I reserve my smack-down's for. You're not quite there yet Skippy. You are still rather insignificant to me. Not that that's a bad thing. Just sayin'.

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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    But beyond the smoke, it's really not about the military to the nay-sayers. That's just a "rightous" cloaking vehicle to air their dissent of the advancement of homosexual rights, human-courtesy's and liberties. Some people truly have a problem with that. Why? Don't ask me. Don't make sense to me either. But some folks.... well.
    The so-called "righteous" need to be told exactly where they can shove it, with a clear and detailed map if they really need it.
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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The so-called "righteous" need to be told exactly where they can shove it, with a clear and detailed map if they really need it.
    But if we all acted like dickhead's towards them, we would be just like them. Dickheads.

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    Re: Gays in the military (its anonymous)

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    But if we all acted like dickhead's towards them, we would be just like them. Dickheads.
    Which is a fantastic reason why nothing ever gets done. Good job.
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