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Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

Good idea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 40.3%

  • No

    Votes: 40 59.7%
  • Total voters
    67
Baralis said:
Off the top of my head I cannot remember what region they are native to. I watched a program on discovery a couple years ago. Older adults 30+ were married to 8-10 year olds. The older spouse played a dual role unlike in our society. They acted much like a parent or mentor as well as a spouse to them.
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I know that this tends to happen in African and Middle Eastern areas. I once read a news article of an 80-year-old man who married a 12-year-old as his fourth wife.

But then again women don't have the same expectations as they do in the U.S. Here, they are expected to have job skills and a career of their own to pursue while their children are off at school. In those societies, women are expected to bear children for their husband and keep house. Parents also marry their girls off young because they don't want to bear the cost of feeding them any more.
 
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samsmart said:
Parents also marry their girls off young because they don't want to bear the cost of feeding them any more.
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Are you sure there aren't other cultural reasons for marrying them off young?
 
azura28 said:
Don't compare your confusion to someone that has none. You actually asked "and how are they given access to children"???? I answered your question, you already made an ass of yourself by asking it in the first place.
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No, you're confused. You have no idea what you're talking about. Read through the thread and the conversation I was in.

Congrats, your made my list of not worthy to debate an issue with.
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Thank God.
 
force them to have a sex change!! :mrgreen:

seriously, i would be against castration.

mtm1963
 
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azura28 said:
A moral stance? That's all it is to you. Uh..uh.. It's to protect defenseless children. But in your moral stance, :roll:just leave them to their own devices then.

It's a step in the right direction to castrate them, if that's not enough, then cut off the appendage itself or just eliminate them. They are monsters, who destroys the child's life if they survive it physically. They will and can never be cured. Ever.
Hang them in public - I'm sure the family of the victims would concur.
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People like you are more dangerous to me than a child molester. You are acting out of outrage and emotion rather than rational thinking. That makes you dangerous. Castration does not work and you still want to do it. Why?

Hanging them is at least a logical solution to the problem. But both of these punishments were ruled cruel and unusual by the Supreme Court. So yes, that would be a moral stance.

In reality, if you keep them away from children most of them are no danger otherwise. Life sentence in a minimum security prison or mental institution, with no access to children, and perhaps they can actually be productive members of society.

azura28 said:
A defenseless child that can be ruined for life by these freaks, nothing should be too cruel for them that commit this on a child.
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Now I get why. Someone has some personal experience?
 
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misterman said:
Because we are civilized society.
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You are right, we ARE civilized, and by making an ethical decision to kill those that take life, rape or molest, we are showing that we hold life to be of the highest value and that is the mark of a truly civilzed society, holding life to the highest value... ;)

As Edward Koch once said:

"It is by exacting the highest penalty for the taking of human life that we affirm the highest value of human life."

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If we execute murderers and there is in fact no deterrent effect, we have killed a bunch of murderers

- John McAdams - Marquette University/Department of Political Science, on deterrence

"Punishment is the way in which society expresses its denunciation of wrong doing; and, in order to maintain respect for the law, it is essential that the punishment inflicted for grave crimes should adequately reflect the revulsion felt by the great majority of citizens for them. It is a mistake to consider the objects of punishments as being a deterrent or reformative or preventive and nothing else... The truth is that some crimes are so outrageous that society insists on adequate punishment, because the wrong doer deserves it, irrespective of whether it is a deterrent or not."

Lord Justice Denning, Master of the Rolls of the Court of Appeals in England said to the Royal Commission on Capital Punishment in 1950
 
Bodhisattva said:
You are right, we ARE civilized, and by making an ethical decision to kill those that take life, rape or molest, we are showing that we hold life to be of the highest value and that is the mark of a truly civilzed society, holding life to the highest value... ;)
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I'm not arguing against the death penalty.

You're the second person to not read the thread carefully enough to see what my comment really meant.
 
misterman said:
I'm not arguing against the death penalty.

You're the second person to not read the thread carefully enough to see what my comment really meant.
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Incorrect. I was talking with Catz and then you made a comment to me. Either make your point again, if you decide to engage with a new person that has no knowledge of your previous argument or expect to be misunderstood and be gracious and then explain your argument. To say that I did not read carefully is sidestepping your responsibility and sign of immaturity or lack of debating skills...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Incorrect. I was talking with Catz and then you made a comment to me.
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My interpretation of your comment was not that you simply wanted the death penalty, but that you didn't want the death penalty process to have appeals and such. If I was wrong, my mistake. A simple misunderstanding.
 
Blackdog said:
Ever heard of "cruel and unusual punishment?" It is against the law for a reason.
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Cruel and unusual punishment would be to let pedophiles loose free to further hurt their victims.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
Cruel and unusual punishment would be to let pedophiles loose free to further hurt their victims.
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Maybe we should lock convicted Pedo's up for life, put them in a secure cell with a big window over looking the playground of a junior school.
 
Why don't you guys distingush between first time offenders and the ones who do it over and over again? There is no way I support castration for first timers, because I believe everyone should get a second chance. (and it may not even work) Of course they should end up in prison, but after their sentence they should be given another chance. People do stupid stuff once in a while.

You must remember that the pedophile may be innocent or he may be hiding his gay feeling. The monsters are the ones who do it again.
 
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Camlon said:
Why don't you guys distingush between first time offenders and the ones who do it over and over again? There is no way I support castration for first timers, because I believe everyone should get a second chance. (and it may not even work) Of course they should end up in prison, but after their sentence they should be given another chance. People do stupid stuff once in a while.

You must remember that the pedophile may be innocent or he may be hiding his gay feeling. The monsters are the ones who do it again.
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Impulsively stealing a neighbor's lawnmower when you're 19 is "doing stupid stuff", and yeah after you have paid up you deserve a second chance.

If the crime is forcible rape, most especially forcible rape of a child under 13, there should be no "second chance" to show whether you will or will not do it again. Do you not comprehend the horrific nature of this crime? Imagine if it was your child the perp blew his "Second chance" molesting.
 
I don't see why anyone would vote "no". If you commit armed robery, you lose your right to use a gun. If you rape a child, you should lose your right to use a penis.
 
Goshin said:
Impulsively stealing a neighbor's lawnmower when you're 19 is "doing stupid stuff", and yeah after you have paid up you deserve a second chance.

If the crime is forcible rape, most especially forcible rape of a child under 13, there should be no "second chance" to show whether you will or will not do it again. Do you not comprehend the horrific nature of this crime? Imagine if it was your child the perp blew his "Second chance" molesting.
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Forcible rape by strangers isn't that common. Normally it is by one the child knows and the child thought he was playing when it suddenly went way over the limit and ended up in rape. Sometimes the child even thinks it's normal and that she should play along.

It would be horrible if that happend to my child, and I would probably hate the person who did it. What parent wouldn't? But I am a strong believer in a second chance. Some people screw up with minor offences. Some people do horrible stuff, like rape and murder but I still believe people should get a second chance after prison. You must also remember that this person could be innocent. Many people who get sentenced to prison is innocent and hasn't done anything wrong.

Although, if he murders the child after he rapes her, then you have breached my limit. Then you should get a death penalty.
 
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Dav said:
I don't see why anyone would vote "no". If you commit armed robery, you lose your right to use a gun. If you rape a child, you should lose your right to use a penis.
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Simplistic thinking.
 
I understand that people are particularly disgusted by this kind of crime, as am I, but the arguments that you should lock them up forever because they are very likely to do it again could apply to just about any crime.
 
misterman said:
I understand that people are particularly disgusted by this kind of crime, as am I, but the arguments that you should lock them up forever because they are very likely to do it again could apply to just about any crime.
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Recidivism for child molesters is very high.
 
American said:
Recidivism for child molesters is very high.
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Recidivism for some other crimes is very high too. Drugs, prostitution, burglary...

But thanks for bringing up a new point - the idea that we should, or legally can, imprison someone because they might commit a crime in the future.
 
misterman said:
But thanks for bringing up a new point - the idea that we should, or legally can, imprison someone because they might commit a crime in the future.
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When the reason we suspect they might commit a crime in the future is because they've already been convicted of the same crime in the past... Hell, isn't that the whole point of locking people up for committing crimes? To stop them from doing it again?
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
When the reason we suspect they might commit a crime in the future is because they've already been convicted of the same crime in the past... Hell, isn't that the whole point of locking people up for committing crimes? To stop them from doing it again?
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No, it's not. I can't believe I have to explain this. But hey, you think a member of my family isn't human enough to live, so I'm not surprised.
 
Camlon said:
Forcible rape by strangers isn't that common. Normally it is by one the child knows and the child thought he was playing when it suddenly went way over the limit and ended up in rape. Sometimes the child even thinks it's normal and that she should play along.

It would be horrible if that happend to my child, and I would probably hate the person who did it. What parent wouldn't? But I am a strong believer in a second chance. Some people screw up with minor offences. Some people do horrible stuff, like rape and murder but I still believe people should get a second chance after prison. You must also remember that this person could be innocent. Many people who get sentenced to prison is innocent and hasn't done anything wrong.

Although, if he murders the child after he rapes her, then you have breached my limit. Then you should get a death penalty.
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because really, raping a child could happen to anyone...Perhaps he just fell into her.

:roll:
 
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