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Thread: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    I have heard that castration doe not stop some of them.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If a 21 year old man has sex witha 15year old girl he should be executed.
    LOL WHAT? 14 is legal in several states with parental consent. A 15 year old girl having consented sex with a 21 year old guy isn't "child molestation" in any sense of the word (and even if it's a statuatory "rape" case, the most the guy should get is a couple months probation IMO).

    FYI, when I say "pedophiles" I'm talking about 40 year old guys who rape 3 year old kids. Not two teenagers getting some tail. I mean if that's what you really believe then you almost creep me out as much as the pedophiles. You sound like a Taliban member or something.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Why should it be any different if its a 21 yo old woman and a 15 yo boy.
    Uh, because how many 13 year old boys do you think would actually complain if they got tail with a 21 year old woman? I mean talk about lucky.

    Personally I think that a boy should be able to consent to sex with women as soon as he's "old enough to breed". (I think the laws should be different when it comes to gay sex or young teenage women, since when there's an older male partner involved, the chances of the younger person being taken advantage of are much higher). Seriously c'mon. When we feminize our young men to the extent that we claim they were "raped" just because they did what all young guys do - that's a serious sign of social degeneracy. No wonder so many young guys today end up being feminized pussies.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    There are two issues when considering age of consent legislation:
    sexual maturity and personal development (and a third, the age difference between partners).
    Across the world the age of consent is set somewhere between the age of sexual maturity and full adulthood (with noteable exception of the Vatican, where it's 12).

    In my humble opinion, there is a world of difference between prebubescent children and sexually mature adolescents, which should be reflected in legislaton dealing with offenders.
    The term pedophile, in its psychiatric meaning, concerns abusers of prepubescents, a 20 year old who has a 15 year old girlfriend is not a pedo.
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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that all convicted child molesters should receive mandatory castration in addition to their prison sentences. I don't know why we aren't doing this. I've heard that sometimes pedophiles get offered castration as a way to reduce their sentence, but **** that. Just castrate all of them I say.
    No, they should be executed before leaving prison.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    I would not support this for reasons already mentioned. What constitutes "molestation" is abused these days, depending on the locality. I'm surprised that the same people who usually badmouth government control in Europe would want to endorse this kind of action in the U.S. Cutting off someone's gonads is a reproductive rights issue.

    Execution is expensive due to all the appeals (which should remain in place) and innocent people have already died, thus I don't support it as a route for convicting pedophiles. The last thing we need is people being wontonly convicted of pedophilia over nothing and then being executed.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    No.

    My reasons are thus:

    Castration is not reversible if the convicted is found to have been falsely convicted. Well, not reversible yet. Even so, if it becomes reversible, castration would then be pointless. In fact, it is pointless now, as I can easily see molestation occurring without the use of an erect penis. Not to mention female child molesters.

    It isn't harsh enough, in the case of the true problem molesters here, older persons (25 and up?) who intentionally perform sexual acts on a young (as in under 10-11 years old, in general) child without the child's consent. Multiple people have stated that after that age, the gray area covers most of the area, with only the edges being black and white.

    Then again, there will be exceptions/oddities. For example, what if a very sexually and physically advanced 10 to 12-year-old (and they do exist, at least the physically large bit, dunno about sexually), say 5’6”-6’ 0” and 180-250 Lbs., were to physically assault and rape a small, petite, 30-40 year-old woman?

    There will always be exceptions, which is why any law which uses age as a standard will cause issues.
    The trouble is, no fool-proof way to measure someone’s “adultness” exists.
    I am sure that somewhere in this world, a 12 year-old boy exists who has all the basic capabilities of a fully grown adult…And at the same time, there exists a 40+ year-old child…and I don’t mean in the mentally impaired/whatever way, I mean in the child-like actions/thought processes way. Wait, is that the same thing? Ok, I don’t mean an actual physical or mental disease/defect/damage bit, I mean…Ah, screw it, you get the idea.

    Basically, I would advocate that anyone who forcibly (as in, against their targets will) engages in sexual acts with another person should be given a life sentence without the possiblity of parole, in a seperate prison space exclusively for their type.

    You see, as some others in this thread have pointed out, it's not the sexual act which is the issue...It is the non-consent or lack of capability TO consent of one party which is the issue.


    Just my thoughts on the issue.
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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    You know, you bring up an excellent point. The cases of some of these people who kidnap kids, stuff them in dungeons, rape them, and kill them have caused a public outcry for stricter laws against sex offenders. However, there is a lot of gray area when it comes to laws against sexual conduct, as has been discussed in this thread. Which makes me want to want to know that instead of making sex offenses have stricter punishments, why not have kidnapping and acts of violence have harsher penalties instead? Doing so would protect those teenagers who are in a relationship with each other and choose to have sex with each other while also going after violent offenders.
    Exactly... it seems pretty silly to lock up an 18 year old that has sex with a 17 year old, or to treat that 18 year old the same as a man that molests a 2 year old girl. The grey area must be addressed and changed, as it seems that most here agree.
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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Toothpicvic View Post
    This sounds like a good idea to me. I think that all convicted child molesters should receive mandatory castration in addition to their prison sentences. I don't know why we aren't doing this. I've heard that sometimes pedophiles get offered castration as a way to reduce their sentence, but **** that. Just castrate all of them I say.
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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    ***** The term Child Molesation/Child Abuse covers an awful lot of territory. There have been an avalanche post mid 80's of False accusations coast to coast against hundreds of innocent people the specifics of which border on the absurd. Dozens of innocent people have been imprisoned and hundreds of others have had their lives turned upside down. The reason it isn't much worse was because of a late 80's SCOTUS ruling (Scalia written) about Facing your accuser in Court.


    ****** Google a Zealot ****head called Kee McFarlane and see exactly where some of this can lead to . Now obviously I have a clear defination of a serial (Male) Child Molester/Rapist and that should be fairly obvious to all but remember some hysteria will always take place and those making a Cottage industry out of exposing deviancy like NBC's Predator series are not really doing this society any good.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** The term Child Molesation/Child Abuse covers an awful lot of territory. There have been an avalanche post mid 80's of False accusations coast to coast against hundreds of innocent people the specifics of which border on the absurd. Dozens of innocent people have been imprisoned and hundreds of others have had their lives turned upside down. The reason it isn't much worse was because of a late 80's SCOTUS ruling (Scalia written) about Facing your accuser in Court.


    ****** Google a Zealot ****head called Kee McFarlane and see exactly where some of this can lead to . Now obviously I have a clear defination of a serial (Male) Child Molester/Rapist and that should be fairly obvious to all but remember some hysteria will always take place and those making a Cottage industry out of exposing deviancy like NBC's Predator series are not really doing this society any good.
    You sound worried and concerned about the Predator Series.

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