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Thread: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Better yet, let's not let them own guns anymore.

    Oh, right. We already do that.
    And that's working out great!

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And that's working out great!
    Yeah, here's the thing. You can purchase a new gun. You can't purchase a new penis.

    So, are you suggesting that we let people who commit armed crimes keep their guns after serving their sentence?

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Can you provide statistics for the portion of child molesting cases which don't involve penises? I doubt it's not a very small number.
    Child sexual abuse is a form of child abuse in which an adult or older adolescent abuses a child for sexual stimulation.[1][2] Forms of CSA include asking or pressuring a child to engage in sexual activities (regardless of the outcome), indecent exposure of the genitals to a child, displaying pornography to a child, actual sexual contact against a child, physical contact with the child's genitals, viewing of the child's genitalia without physical contact, or using a child to produce child pornography.[1][3][4]
    All of the above would be charged as sexual battery of a child (or whatever the corresponding state statute would be). There are no stats kept on how much of each is committed.

    http://www.childtrauma.org/ctamateri...xual_abuse.asp

    There are a number of commonly held misconceptions regarding child sexual abuse in the United States. These include the following: sexual abuse is limited to sexual intercourse between an adult and a child; the perpetrator of the sexual abuse is always a stranger; and rape occurs with adult women, not children. However, these beliefs are false. Sexual abuse involves a range of activities including non-contact and contact offenses (see Table1); stranger abuse comprises only a small percentage of total victimizations; and children are approximately three times more likely than adults to be victims of rape. In fact, among females, almost 30% of all forcible rapes occur before the age of 11 years, and another 32% occur between the ages of 11 and 17.

    Researchers in this area use somewhat different “criteria” for sexual abuse; the most common definition of sexual abuse, however, is any sexual activity involving a child where consent is not or cannot be given.

    ...From state to state, it varies as to who is mandated to report and what abuse acts require reporting. For example, according to California Penal Code there are two categories of sexual abuse that are reportable: sexual assault and sexual exploitation. According to the code, sexual assault includes rape and rape in concert, oral copulation and sodomy, lewd and lascivious acts upon a child under the age of 14, penetration of a genital and/or anal opening by a foreign object, and child molestation. Sexual exploitation includes conduct involving matter depicting minors engaged in obscene acts; promoting, aiding, or assisting a minor to engage in prostitution; a live performance involving obscene sexual conduct, or posing for a pictorial depiction involving obscene conduct for commercial purposes; and depicting a child in or knowingly developing a pictorial depiction in which a child engages in obscene sexual conduct.
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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    There are no stats kept on how much of each is committed.
    That's disappointing. But I doubt that someone who used actual penal(?) penetration the first time would suddenly change preferences.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    o, are you suggesting that we let people who commit armed crimes keep their guns after serving their sentence?
    Strawman....

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    That's disappointing. But I doubt that someone who used actual penal(?) penetration the first time would suddenly change preferences.
    You'd be mistaken.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Strawman....
    Not if you follow the line of the conversation.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Not if you follow the line of the conversation.
    The problem is that removing guns from convicted felons doesn't stop them from committing violent crimes, and removing penises from rapists doesn't stop them from sexual crime.

    If the motivation is there, they will find the means.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The problem is that removing guns from convicted felons doesn't stop them from committing violent crimes, and removing penises from rapists doesn't stop them from sexual crime.

    If the motivation is there, they will find the means.
    Okay, but unlike you, misterman hasn't offered any alternative.

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    Re: Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Yeah, here's the thing. You can purchase a new gun. You can't purchase a new penis.
    True, according to the penal code.

    So, are you suggesting that we let people who commit armed crimes keep their guns after serving their sentence?
    No, but I'd let them keep their trigger fingers.

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