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Should all child molesters be castrated before leaving prison?

Good idea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 27 40.3%

  • No

    Votes: 40 59.7%
  • Total voters
    67
Ethereal said:
Of course it's not 100% effective but that's not a good argument against it.
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Why not?

If a child molester is released after being castrated, and molests again, I wouldn't like it!

Thus my suggestion of life in prison, without any possibility of parole.

Ethereal said:
Furthermore, a male's sex drive is determined in large part by their testosterone levels. Suggesting that chemical castration will have no effect on their sex drive is a little silly.
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Of course it will have SOME effect, in most cases.

But not all.

And sex is not always the primary motivator in such things.

Ethereal said:
The vast majority of them are male. Exceptions to the rule need not muddy the waters, nor should the prospect of innocent people being falsely punished, since that is inherent to a human justice system.
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Actually, innocent people being punished unjustly are the example that puts the lie to the human attempts at a "justice" system.

Sure, it may work for most cases, and actually improve overall conditions.

But it still is nowhere near perfect, and it makes mistakes, some of which are not corrected.

I like to think that it, while not perfect, is constantly being improved towards perfection.
 
The Mark said:
Why not?

If a child molester is released after being castrated, and molests again, I wouldn't like it!

Thus my suggestion of life in prison, without any possibility of parole.
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I see your point. I guess my argument is if we're going to release them then we ought to decrease the likelihood of them hurting children.

Of course it will have SOME effect, in most cases.

But not all.

And sex is not always the primary motivator in such things.
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Agreed. Like I said, if we're going to release them we ought to do our best to protect society.

Actually, innocent people being punished unjustly are the example that puts the lie to the human attempts at a "justice" system.

Sure, it may work for most cases, and actually improve overall conditions.

But it still is nowhere near perfect, and it makes mistakes, some of which are not corrected.
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This is inherent to any human system.
 
Put jaywalkers in prison for life! That will keep them from jaywalking again.
 
misterman said:
Put jaywalkers in prison for life! That will keep them from jaywalking again.
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Jaywalking =|= child molestation.

At least, not in my book.
 
misterman said:
Put jaywalkers in prison for life! That will keep them from jaywalking again.
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You're not even trying to be reasonable anymore. Come back when you've returned to your old self, MM.
 
Ethereal said:
You're not even trying to be reasonable anymore. Come back when you've returned to your old self, MM.
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If you missed my point, here it is: the fact that a punishment is an effective deterrent or prevents crime is NOT the only factor in determining if it is appropriate. My post was satire.
 
Ikari said:
No, that's in fact not how it's interpreted. The criminal doesn't get to choose punishment, that's handed down by the courts. The courts are restricted in what they can hand down as punishment by the Constitution. Just because you keep saying it's not cruel or unusual doesn't make it so. We don't use these forms of punishment, so implementation of them can most certainly be argued to be in the very least unusual. Maiming people can most certainly be argued to be cruel.
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Life imprisonment is a common punishment for child rape. I wouldn't call it cruel or unusual, and I doubt that most would either. If a child rapist picks a tracking device and chemical castration over the humane and typical punishment, how is it cruel or unusual?
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Life imprisonment is a common punishment for child rape. I wouldn't call it cruel or unusual, and I doubt that most would either. If a child rapist picks a tracking device and chemical castration over the humane and typical punishment, how is it cruel or unusual?
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It's cruel and unusual to the children they may molest despite the tracking device and chemical castration.
 
The Mark said:
It's cruel and unusual to the children they may molest despite the tracking device and chemical castration.
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I'm not too familiar with chemical castration, but it reduces their libido making recidivism far less likely. From a completely reliable source

[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration]Chemical castration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
I'm not too familiar with chemical castration, but it reduces their libido making recidivism far less likely. From a completely reliable source

Chemical castration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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But not impossible.

Not to mention those for whom the molestation had no or only a small sexual component in the first place.

In my mind, if keeping 1 million child molesters in prison for life, 999,999 of whom could have been released and not committed another such act if chemically castrated, prevents that 1 from repeating his crime, it would be worth it.
 
I would prefer to use child molesters as laboratory rats for medical experiments. Cancer research, high risk drug development surgical experimentation and technique development etc. And no I am not related to Dr. Mengele we are just from the same state.
 
The Mark said:
But not impossible.

Not to mention those for whom the molestation had no or only a small sexual component in the first place.

In my mind, if keeping 1 million child molesters in prison for life, 999,999 of whom could have been released and not committed another such act if chemically castrated, prevents that 1 from repeating his crime, it would be worth it.
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There are 999,999 of those scum buckets ? Now just think of the material we could have for use for medical experimentation if we were allowed to use them as lab rats.
 
F107HyperSabr said:
There are 999,999 of those scum buckets ? Now just think of the material we could have for use for medical experimentation if we were allowed to use them as lab rats.
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This would cause the same, but to a greater extent, issue that I have with chemical castration.

If they turn out to be innocent, you can't give them back the use of their nuts, or bodies in this case.

And I wasn't stating facts about how many there are, I was making a point.
 
B L Zeebub said:
A german woman shot dead in court a pedophile, who had raped and murdered her child.

He had been previously chemically castrate at his request, then when that did not work, he was physically castrated, that obviously did not work, to cause an erection is a mental thing, his mind was not normal, so he could still become erect.

Pedophile should be locked up until there is a proven medical cure.
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If you remove the testicles and the penis its gonna stop him from becoming erect and engaging in buggery
 
TurtleDude said:
If you remove the testicles and the penis its gonna stop him from becoming erect and engaging in buggery
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Apparently it didn't, in this case.
 
We have rights protecting us against cruel and unusual punishment...

but not for those people!!!

Rights aren't rights if you apply them selectively.
 
DrunkenAsparagus said:
Life imprisonment is a common punishment for child rape. I wouldn't call it cruel or unusual, and I doubt that most would either. If a child rapist picks a tracking device and chemical castration over the humane and typical punishment, how is it cruel or unusual?
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Because first off, we don't castrate or track with cyinade laced tracking devices. So off the bat, that's unusual. As those things are not usual forms of punishment. Furthermore, the permanent threat of death and the maiming of others is cruel. A child rapist cannot pick either of these things as both are not valid forms of punishment by the government. So it's moot. It's also something we can't allow the government to do.

I mean, if you people think stuff like this, especially the active tracking thing, would remain solely in the realm of "child rapists", then you're stupid. People try to emotionalize so much crap these days to get others to not think about a problem. And in the end, we're left in a worse situation.
 
Ethereal said:
Except the words "cruel and unusual" are purely subjective. Just because you think something is "cruel and unusual" does not make it so.
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And just because you think something is not curel and unusual does not make it so.
 
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