Last edited by liblady; 02-04-10 at 12:31 PM.
Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:
These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.
They fill the screw hopper in the robots these days.
Regardless, the fact of the matter is that essentially unskilled people, because of their goonion, are being paid wages skilled laborers find difficult to earn.
The other fact of the matter is that the largest single overhead item of any company, including GM, is employee compensation, which isn't just current wages and benefits but amazing retirement packages as well. And the United Auto Workers goonion has priced themselves so far out into the stratosphere that their golden goose is dying.
Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 02-04-10 at 12:40 PM.
What should happen then? should they be fired? The article said they are ACCUSED not that they were GUILTY. Lets think this thru. A teacher is accused of wrong doing and is fired. Loses his house, car and files bankrupty despite the fact he was INNOCENT. See being accused doesn't mean he really did the act. A hearing or trial will determine rather or not guilt or innocent. If guilty then a job is lost maybe even jail/prison time. BUT if innocent then why should he have faced financial hardship due to lost job???
Last edited by pugetsoundwa; 02-04-10 at 01:28 PM.
What's more damning is the fact that administrators get to decide which teachers students will get. Favoritism already abound in every campus, merit pay will exacerbate the already troubled relationship between teachers and the administration. The cooperative teachers will get the good students, therefore better pay, and those who oppose the administration will get the problem students, and therefore lower pay.
Because one does not cause the other, it's as simple as that. A student's effort is what determines their test scores, not how well a teacher can use their pedagogy. The student's choice to study at night, do their homework, pay attention in class, are all choices that a student makes. The teacher is not responsible for a student who chooses NOT to do these things. Student success does not rely on a teacher's pedagogy, it's is merely a part of it. And that's a weak foundation for supporting the merit pay system.There are standardized tests that measure critical thinking and analytical skills. And why don't you think they measure the effectiveness of the teacher? If the students in a certain math teacher's class can't do math, it's fair to say that the teacher is ineffective.
Furthermore, to measure critical thinking, you have to review written exams and not multiple choice itemized exams. Given how much money is already spent on the latter type of exams, much more money and time will need be spent on the former type of exams, considering how much more reading must be done for review. Given that you are using baseline values, you'll likely have to test these students at the end of every quarter to measure their improvement and update their baselines. You think this may actually be viable?? There's not enough time in the 9 months of the school year to do this, let alone the budget to afford it.
the contract will provide for the process to follow to proceed with termination
all management has to do is follow that process and prove the employee has performed unacceptably. if that is the fact, then there should be evidence to prove it
but it is easier for management to let the accused collect their salaries while offering no positive contribution to the school system. it costs the administrator nothing to do nothing. if management would be graded on its performance, such as how quickly and effectively it processes disciplinary actions, to include terminations, where doing that poorly would diminish the managers' incomes, then prompt action would be taken
You can bet your ass that the company paying those benefits counts every single penny of them.
And, gee, did I say 40 a year? No, I said 40 an hour.
Hmm....let's see....what IS a fair wage for a screw turner....minimum wage?
Yeah, that's fair, since no skills are needed.
How many line workers in the UAW are paid mininum wage?
Fact of the matter is the goonions prevent the dismissal of these people, which is what would happen in the real world outside of goonionland, where employees are actually expected to produce something for their wages.
If your concern is about improving education, please explain how you would address these issues:
Virginia Preschool Initiative?
Comprehensive School Reform??
Enhanced Career and Technical Education (Fine Arts - STEM)?
Increased teacher participation in instructional decisions?
Class size reduction?
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