Unions are what made America strong, its odd but not surprising that Repubs hate them although we all benefit from having had them in the fabric of America...Buy Union...Look for the Union Label...
Maybe, but the academic requirements for 7-12 grade math teachers in my state START with calculus and go up from there.Practially anyone can teach a child arithmatic, and parents that make the effort do a vastly better job than a goonionized teacher.
I'm not sure ANYONE can teach their child to read and write, certainly not to the end of 10th grade. Parents with sufficient education can (but only about 25% of American adults have college degrees). Of course, people with the right education can be hedge-fund managers, too.
But you're talking about teaching your own child, one-on-one. Public school teachers have to educate other people's children, 30 or so at a time. A very different thing.
If teaching were so easy, so well paid, and such a great scam, more people would do it. Fact: it takes 3-5 years to become an effective teacher, but about half of those who enter the profession at the training stage quit and do something else before the end of their fifth year teaching.
All you're really saying here is that you'd teach them in light of your own political views. That's your right, but you can't expect an institution that everyone pays for to teach YOUR values to everyone.I'll trust my ability to teach my kids the truth about the Constitution and American history over any just about any mass-produced employee in the Propaganda Factories. After all, I won't lie to my child.
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I will say that California teachers take a larger percentage of school appropriations than is true in other states (i.e., teacher salaries are greater in comparison to other expenses like supplies, property upkeep, etc.).
ALL unions are good AND bad... wroking conditions and such are improved, but dead weight can be hard to get rid off. For people to be against unions completely is nuts, it is as if they have no idea what conditions were like prior to unions. Can unions be monsters and is there a negative side, yes. Was life better before unions in the Industrial Revolution and in places like China or Indonesia now... **** no. It is, as with most things, about balance.
Are you factoring in cost of living to your disgust, because I taught in CA and made close to that amount and we lived pretty meagerly...Originally Posted by Cephus
Yup, in California, the average teacher makes nearly $60k, thanks to their absurd union. And no, they don't deserve it.
See above.2) Employers can permanently replace people who are supposed to be working but are out on the sidewalk marching in circles carrying signs.
Criminal acts are criminal acts. Let's make sure that employers are also charged when the violence is on their side. One of the reasons unions ended up with the "goon" reputation you like to propound here is that employers hired their own goons to break up lawful strikes (ever hear of the Pinkertons?).3) Criminal charges are filed and prosecuted for every act of violence any union member engages in.
Agreed.4) Union elections are by sealed secret ballot only.
Mostly true now. Some workers are required to pay for those elements of union activity from which they benefit (collective bargaining, conflict resolution) but they mostly don't have to be members or pay full dues.5) Workers at a company have the freedom to not be in the union.
Already true. They just have to write each year to ask for their contributions not to be used for politics.6) Union dues are collected for political purposes are subject to refund to the union member when the union endorses and finances political candidates the union member opposes.