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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    YOU are the one who wants everyone to have low taxes, but is unwilling to cut spending. *I* am perfectly willing to raise taxes on the wealthy, so that your ancient ass can leech off the government for a few more years until you croak. You're welcome.
    That is the only talking point you have is raise taxes on the wealthy...Don't you know they are the ones who pay the taxes in this country..........

    Just remember one thing my whacked out left wing friend some day you will be old to and it comes faster then your socialist ass believes.......
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    Increase those taxes and you lose capital for investment and expansion of the private sector. Way to go, genius!

    BTW - How would you pay down the deficit... genius?

    In 2003, 450 Economists including ten Nobel Prize Laureates made this statement:

    Economic growth, though positive, has not been sufficient to generate jobs and prevent unemployment from rising. In fact, there are now more than two million fewer private sector jobs than at the start of the current recession. Overcapacity, corporate scandals, and uncertainty have and will continue to weigh down the economy.

    The tax cut plan proposed by President Bush is not the answer to these problems. Regardless of how one views the specifics of the Bush plan, there is wide agreement that its purpose is a permanent change in the tax structure and not the creation of jobs and growth in the near-term. The permanent dividend tax cut, in particular, is not credible as a short-term stimulus. As tax reform, the dividend tax cut is misdirected in that it targets individuals rather than corporations, is overly complex, and could be, but is not, part of a revenue-neutral tax reform effort.

    Passing these tax cuts will worsen the long-term budget outlook, adding to the nationís projected chronic deficits. This fiscal deterioration will reduce the capacity of the government to finance Social Security and Medicare benefits as well as investments in schools, health, infrastructure, and basic research. Moreover, the proposed tax cuts will generate further inequalities in after-tax income.

    To be effective, a stimulus plan should rely on immediate but temporary spending and tax measures to expand demand, and it should also rely on immediate but temporary incentives for investment. Such a stimulus plan would spur growth and jobs in the short term without exacerbating the long-term budget outlook.

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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Whatever it takes to keep someone like you safe.............We always need a strong military...........
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Okay, there seems to be no point in having any sort of intelligent conversation with you. You are far too radical in your ideas, and you act like a true hyper-partisan. Calm down dude, its not like any discussions on some random online forum actually matter. And yelling about it, and getting pissed off does nothing but harm you.
    Your the one who always attacks the messenger when your position is defenseless........tell me did Obama make a campaign promise to cut out ear marks in his campaign and then in his first budget approve hundrred of them

    What a cop out some of you lefties are......at least DD will try and defend his position even though he is wrong............take a hike......don't respond to my posts anymore.If you can't stand the heat don't go in the kitchen..............
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is the only talking point you have is raise taxes on the wealthy...Don't you know they are the ones who pay the taxes in this country..........

    Just remember one thing my whacked out left wing friend some day you will be old to and it comes faster then your socialist ass believes.......
    I love how you call me a socialist while YOU attack ME for wanting to get entitlement spending under control. When you think of something to say that's more complex than a 10-second sound byte Glenn Beck fed to you, let me know.
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Whatever it takes to keep someone like you safe.............We always need a strong military...........
    Our invasion and 7 year occupation of Iraq did nothing to make me safe, as Iraq was of no threat to the US, which has been confirmed by the Pentagon.

    We need a strong defense, not a force to commit further imperialist acts of aggression in countries that never attacked us.

    But then I guess waste in government spending is not very important to the GOP, except a election time when they wave it around as if they meant it.
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I love how you call me a socialist while YOU attack ME for wanting to get entitlement spending under control. When you think of something to say that's more complex than a 10-second sound byte Glenn Beck fed to you, let me know.
    Do you know what the word entitlement means? It means giving something to someone they are entitled to......Why don't you bitch about your socialist medical plan that if approved will take one sixth of the budget.......How about cleaning up welfare and food stamps.....Why do you lefties love give away programs from cradle to grave?....Your boy Obama just raised the debt to a record amount to pay for his give away programs..Your buddy has been in office for a year and he has spent 3 times the amount Bush did and has spent more then the entire budges added together in the last 200 years.....

    Why the **** is he worried about Gays in the military when we have 10% unemployment and the economy is in the tank.............When are you lefties going to wise up?
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Your buddy has been in office for a year and he has spent 3 times the amount Bush did and has spent more then the entire budges added together in the last 200 years.....
    ?
    I'll be the first to agree there is much waste in our spending that needs to be cut, but you are factually incorrect with your statement above.

    "The current National Debt, as of Feb 7, 2010 is $12.3 trillion."

    Federal Budget Spending and the National Debt

    "When "W" left office on January 20, 2009, the national debt was $10,626,877,048,913.08.

    The growth in the national debt during his eight years in office: $4,899,100,310,608.44."


    "During much of Bush's tenure, he had a Republican majority in both the House and the Senate.

    He claimed that tax cuts would pay for themselves - they did not. He claimed that tax cuts would result in growth - we are in the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

    Let us hope that once the economy rights itself, we will find the political will to insist that we pay what it costs to run this country. We need to do it as a general principle of what is right for America, and not empty words conditioned upon every citizen agreeing with how every dollar in the government budget is being spent.


    What George Bush did to this country profoundly weakened us. We worry about the effect of spending a trillion dollars to bring us back from an economic precipice because, during times of relative prosperity we were sold a bill of goods about how our budget would be balanced at some time in future, despite all evidence to the contrary.

    There can be no more "magical thinking". No more tricks of accountancy. No more ignoring the costs of our aging population. This time, when we restore our economy to some semblance of health we need to pay as we go, not borrow as we cross our fingers."

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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Do you know what the word entitlement means? It means giving something to someone they are entitled to......Why don't you bitch about your socialist medical plan that if approved will take one sixth of the budget.
    I'm asking you which programs you are willing to cut to balance the budget. Not which possible future programs you might oppose ever going into existence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    How about cleaning up welfare and food stamps.....Why do you lefties love give away programs from cradle to grave?
    Welfare and food stamps are a drop in the bucket next to the federal deficit, and even suggesting them as a way to balance the budget shows that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Your boy Obama just raised the debt to a record amount to pay for his give away programs..
    Give away programs? Like those entitlements you refuse to give up?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride
    Why the **** is he worried about Gays in the military when we have 10% unemployment and the economy is in the tank.............When are you lefties going to wise up?
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    Re: Should the 2001/2003 GWB cuts be extended?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    ........Cheney was a big backer of our military........
    I always picture Cheney as more of a top and GWB as more of a bottom.
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