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There should be best quotes section and this post belongs there.If other people pay for your existence, they have a right to have some say in what you do-including preventing you from engaging in activities that cause them to have to fork over more money.
The government provides all sorts of other incentives, to businesses, farmers, drug companies, etc. They do this for the common good. Why not encourage long term welfare recipients, drug addicts, etc, to be sterilized?
I am disgusted that anyone could even consider banning a woman from having a child. Talk about not letting her do what she wants with her own body. If you are pro-choice and would support forced birth control you are a hypocrite.
I picked a few where it mite apply, but I would be against this in any form as it violates the civil rights of an individual.
Are you against putting people in prison because it might violate their civil rights?
If a woman is being subsidized by the rest of us because of her inability to manage her own life, to some degree, she has abdicated her rights to control her uterus. If a woman has previously abused a child, she's not entitled to any more.
Actions have consequences.
No. By commiting a crime, you give up certain rights.
Nothing in the Constitution says reciving welfare or doing drugs (unless convicted of a crime) means you give up any rights.
Child abuse isn't a crime?
It should. Accepting welfare payments should mean accepting norplant.
p.s. Are you under the mistaken impression that there is a constitutional right to breed?
What do you think, should the State mandate birth control for anyone? This will be a multiple choice poll.
Your mom.
Actually, I'm not sure why people think having children is a basic human right.
Your mom.
Actually, I'm not sure why people think having children is a basic human right.
This person with the name "liveuninhibited" thinks natural human instinct is something that should be controlled by the government?
It is intresting, but how do you justify it and where do you draw the line?
This person with the name "liveuninhibited" thinks natural human instinct is something that should be controlled by the government?
It is intresting, but how do you justify it and where do you draw the line?
Yeah I was a hardcore libertarian when I first started using this name about 12 years ago. I guess next time I join a forum I might choose another one.
Anyway, it's quite easy to justify. Raising children necessarily involves an innocent, non-consenting third party, and so cannot possibly be treated as a right. Assuming you're okay with the government taking kids away from abusive parents after the fact, I'm not sure why you wouldn't want the government to prevent people who have abused kids in the past from abusing more kids.
The "natural human instinct" (not that I consider that criteria relevant to anything) part is having sex, which I would not stop people, even relatives, from doing assuming everybody involved is consenting. Thankfully it is quite possible to have sex without procreation, and since I believe in abortion to a point it doesn't matter to me if the birth control fails.
I'd certainly draw the line no earlier than those who have clearly demonstrated they are a risk to children, or cannot take care of children (e.g. severely mentally challenged). While it's true that we ought to be conservative in how we apply it, I just don't buy into the slippery slope argument of it being inevitably abused.
I'd certainly draw the line no earlier than those who have clearly demonstrated they are a risk to children, or cannot take care of children (e.g. severely mentally challenged). While it's true that we ought to be conservative in how we apply it, I just don't buy into the slippery slope argument of it being inevitably abused.