View Poll Results: Who, if anyone, should the State force on birth control?

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  • The mentally retarded

    31 31.00%
  • Those with genetic diseases that will cost the State

    29 29.00%
  • Drug addicts

    35 35.00%
  • Child abusers

    36 36.00%
  • Those receiving government assistance (food stamps, welfare)

    41 41.00%
  • Those who've already had 2 or 3 kids (overpopulation)

    15 15.00%
  • Anyone failing a psychological test

    14 14.00%
  • Women over 35 (Higher rate of genetic anomalies)

    3 3.00%
  • Girls under 18

    21 21.00%
  • Forced birth control is a violation of basic human rights

    52 52.00%
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    But this is part of the problem. You're making people jump through hoops to get a handout. The welfare recipients are still getting our money. You're giving the government the power to take our money, then giving the government power to set requirements for others to receive our money.

    We'd be better off to simply cut off the money.
    Of course there should be requirements for others to receive handouts!

    However, I also agree that greatly limiting the handouts is a good idea as well. That still has to do with requirements though

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    This would all be a believably sincere except you are predicating our acceptance of this on the idea that we would suspend our disbelief and assume that it is not what we currently consider "undesirables" that are the main recipients of welfare.

    This whole philosophy of yours is nothing more than a pig named Eugenics with a different shade of lipstick on it.
    Oh please They can breed all they want. They just can't expect us to hand them money while they do it. There's no eugenics there at all. Merely a stipulation to the receipt of unearned income. Merely a requirement that must be met before getting charity.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    Right; except you and I both know that isn't going to happen.



    No, it's pretty simple.

    You want this welfare check? You're getting this 10 year IUD.
    Well I agree with you on the "isn't going to happen" part.

    I just have a problem with a scenario where we make people jump through our hoops to get our money. And yes, I know there are lots of examples of us doing that. But a welfare check for an IUD? We're holding money up in front of welfare queens and saying "do what we say and you get this".

    I'd rather just not give them the money. Giving them money when they have more kids just encourages them to have more kids.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think, should the State mandate birth control for anyone? This will be a multiple choice poll.
    The State shouldn't mandate birth control for anyone, but otoh, the State shouldn't be paying people to have babies either.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Forced birth control is a violation of basic human rights.

    Obviously, at least to me.

    The question then becomes:

    Are you still human if you rape/molest children?
    Even more important...Is the desire to rape/molest children a genetic trait?

    Either way, I would still take issue with giving the government (state) this kind of power.
    The government has far too much say in what we do already, no need to give them more.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think, should the State mandate birth control for anyone? This will be a multiple choice poll.
    The state should not be mandating anyone's reproductive rights. However, the state shouldn't FUND having children, either.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Well I agree with you on the "isn't going to happen" part.

    I just have a problem with a scenario where we make people jump through our hoops to get our money. And yes, I know there are lots of examples of us doing that. But a welfare check for an IUD? We're holding money up in front of welfare queens and saying "do what we say and you get this".
    That's not at all what's happening. The "welfare queens" would be going and asking for money and be told they are welcome to have it if they do xyz. Otherwise, they can get their handouts elsewhere.

    People SHOULD have to jump through hoops to get our tax dollars. The money shouldn't just be given to anyone for any reason for any amount of time.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think, should the State mandate birth control for anyone? This will be a multiple choice poll.
    My answers are dependent on if everything else stays the same.

    The mentally retarded- Maybe, it depends on if they receive state aid in order to live because they may be unemployable.

    Those with genetic diseases that will cost the State- Maybe, If they are on state aid and the potential for passing it on is high, you betcha.

    Drug addicts- Definitely, they some the last people who need to have children.

    Child abusers- Probably, depends on the situation.

    Those receiving government assistance (food stamps, welfare)- Definitely, you don't need anymore mouths to feed if you can't fill your own.

    Those who've already had 2 or 3 kids (overpopulation)- If they can pay for them, more power to em.

    Anyone failing a psychological test- Depends, that's too vague.

    Women over 35 (Higher rate of genetic anomalies)- Not really a big deal.

    Girls under 18- It probably wouldn't be a bad idea.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    Well I agree with you on the "isn't going to happen" part.
    Unfortunately, many Americans LOVE entitlements.

    I just have a problem with a scenario where we make people jump through our hoops to get our money. And yes, I know there are lots of examples of us doing that. But a welfare check for an IUD? We're holding money up in front of welfare queens and saying "do what we say and you get this".
    Yeah that's the idea. If they want the money, they get the IUD. No kids for them for ten years. We don't have to continually give out more money for more kids.

    I'd rather just not give them the money. Giving them money when they have more kids just encourages them to have more kids.
    Agreed. See point 1.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    I think that all pedophiles should be forcibly castrated before they're let out of prison.

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