View Poll Results: Who, if anyone, should the State force on birth control?

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  • The mentally retarded

    31 31.00%
  • Those with genetic diseases that will cost the State

    29 29.00%
  • Drug addicts

    35 35.00%
  • Child abusers

    36 36.00%
  • Those receiving government assistance (food stamps, welfare)

    41 41.00%
  • Those who've already had 2 or 3 kids (overpopulation)

    15 15.00%
  • Anyone failing a psychological test

    14 14.00%
  • Women over 35 (Higher rate of genetic anomalies)

    3 3.00%
  • Girls under 18

    21 21.00%
  • Forced birth control is a violation of basic human rights

    52 52.00%
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    The government provides all sorts of other incentives, to businesses, farmers, drug companies, etc. They do this for the common good. Why not encourage long term welfare recipients, drug addicts, etc, to be sterilized?
    The government does not provide incentives for the common good. They provide incentives for their own good. Politicians don't do anything unless they also get a benefit from it.

    If the government "encourages" sterilization then someone has to pay the tab for that. Who do you think that will be?
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    What do you think, should the State mandate birth control for anyone? This will be a multiple choice poll.
    The only one I can agree with, and I actually advocate forced sterilization for them, is drug addicts that have already given birth to one drug affected child.

    And I am draconian in my application of that practice and am more than willing to accept the howler monkey squealing that is bound to ensue for having said it.

    I have no empathy, sympathy or compassion for women who give birth to crack babies. None.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only one I can agree with, and I actually advocate forced sterilization for them, is drug addicts that have already given birth to one drug affected child.

    And I am draconian in my application of that practice and am more than willing to accept the howler monkey squealing that is bound to ensue for having said it.

    I have no empathy, sympathy or compassion for women who give birth to crack babies. None.
    I agree with you on that one...

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only one I can agree with, and I actually advocate forced sterilization for them, is drug addicts that have already given birth to one drug affected child.

    And I am draconian in my application of that practice and am more than willing to accept the howler monkey squealing that is bound to ensue for having said it.

    I have no empathy, sympathy or compassion for women who give birth to crack babies. None.
    I promise, no Howler Monkey activity from me. Although that's a hilarious visual.

    To your post - you don't want to go down that road. I appreciate your honesty and I can see your concern in protecting the children and our society. I really mean that. I know your intentions are good.

    But if we give the government that kind of power we are opening a door with a lot of scary stuff on the other side.

    Less than 100 years ago there was another group of people that many citizens and bureaucrats wanted to have sterilized. They were considered "sexual perverts" and moral degenerates. I know the state of Oregon came close to getting their law passed, but it either failed at the very end or it was overturned by their Supreme Court.

    Wanna guess which group of people our friends in Oregon wanted to forcefully sterilize?

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    I'm supportive of mandatory sterilization for women who pop out multiple crack-babies. Other than that, I wouldn't support it.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    The only one I can agree with, and I actually advocate forced sterilization for them, is drug addicts that have already given birth to one drug affected child.

    And I am draconian in my application of that practice and am more than willing to accept the howler monkey squealing that is bound to ensue for having said it.

    I have no empathy, sympathy or compassion for women who give birth to crack babies. None.
    We should start a political action committee.

    Handsome bad-asses against crack-whores.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I promise, no Howler Monkey activity from me. Although that's a hilarious visual.

    To your post - you don't want to go down that road. I appreciate your honesty and I can see your concern in protecting the children and our society. I really mean that. I know your intentions are good.

    But if we give the government that kind of power we are opening a door with a lot of scary stuff on the other side.

    Less than 100 years ago there was another group of people that many citizens and bureaucrats wanted to have sterilized. They were considered "sexual perverts" and moral degenerates. I know the state of Oregon came close to getting their law passed, but it either failed at the very end or it was overturned by their Supreme Court.

    Wanna guess which group of people our friends in Oregon wanted to forcefully sterilize?

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    Except those people weren't hurting other people with their "degenerate" activity. Crack-whores who give birth to babies are chemically assaulting their newborns.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    I promise, no Howler Monkey activity from me. Although that's a hilarious visual.
    I do what I can to amuse.

    To your post - you don't want to go down that road. I appreciate your honesty and I can see your concern in protecting the children and our society. I really mean that. I know your intentions are good.

    But if we give the government that kind of power we are opening a door with a lot of scary stuff on the other side.

    Less than 100 years ago there was another group of people that many citizens and bureaucrats wanted to have sterilized. They were considered "sexual perverts" and moral degenerates. I know the state of Oregon came close to getting their law passed, but it either failed at the very end or it was overturned by their Supreme Court.

    Wanna guess which group of people our friends in Oregon wanted to forcefully sterilize?

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    I understand your caution but there is a glaring fact that must be pointed out. My philosophy on sterilization of a drug addict is predicated on the drug addict having already committed biochemical assault on one child. It is a judicial response to a criminal act having already been tried and convicted. It is a response to the victimization of a child and to prevent it from occurring a second time.

    It's not that far off from what we already have built in our judicial system in the cases of child rapists who are chemically castrated as a part of their probation.

    In the scenario you point to, Oregon's attempt to sterilize what I assume must be homosexuals (because that seems to be what everyone uses to try to incite a reaction out of me as opposed to a response these days), was a matter of eugenics being applied. Which is totally inconsistent and illogical because most people who would support such a thing are the same ones who would scream to high heaven that homosexuality isn't genetic. Figure that one out. The forced sterilization of homosexuals, besides being illogical because homosexuals, by nature of being homosexuals, aren't prone to prolific breeding, fails to acknowledge a crime for which justice is being served and a victim or prevention of further victims.

    On the surface, it appears to be a valid comparison but once you look at it a little deeper, it's like comparing apples and hubcaps.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    We should start a political action committee.

    Handsome bad-asses against crack-whores.
    Damn it. I wanted to join, but I'm not a handsome badass.

    What about:

    Handsome bad-asses and one fugly semi-retard against crack-whores?
    Tucker Case - Tard magnet.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Except those people weren't hurting other people with their "degenerate" activity. Crack-whores who give birth to babies are chemically assaulting their newborns.
    I completely agree. I'm not arguing against the reason you and Jallman stated, it's a good one. My concern would be giving our government more power than they already have.

    Every time we give power to our government they keep it and they expand it.

    Social Security was intended to help senior citizens and retired people, especially widows. It was signed into law during the depression. Probably seemed like a great idea at the time. Now look what it has grown into.
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