View Poll Results: Who, if anyone, should the State force on birth control?

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  • The mentally retarded

    31 31.00%
  • Those with genetic diseases that will cost the State

    29 29.00%
  • Drug addicts

    35 35.00%
  • Child abusers

    36 36.00%
  • Those receiving government assistance (food stamps, welfare)

    41 41.00%
  • Those who've already had 2 or 3 kids (overpopulation)

    15 15.00%
  • Anyone failing a psychological test

    14 14.00%
  • Women over 35 (Higher rate of genetic anomalies)

    3 3.00%
  • Girls under 18

    21 21.00%
  • Forced birth control is a violation of basic human rights

    52 52.00%
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Thread: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Are we animals or not animals? Pick one and stick with it.
    And you say I am getting hissy?

    I said we are and have not changed this...

    A Human is always an animal. An Animal is not always a human.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Where do you get that? I've specifically stated several times in this thread that I don't support racial quotas.
    Thats why I asked if I was wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's what I said originally and you had a hissy fit.
    A hissy fit?

    We are talking. I have had no emotional reaction to this at all.

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    I think that women who accept welfare should sign a contract not to reproduce. If they get knocked up, their benefits are cut off.
    I would think no benefit increase is a better idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I also believe that first time child abuse offenders should not be allowed to breed. One strike, you're out.
    No. To many mistakes are made in our system for it to be absolute.
    Last edited by Black Dog; 04-21-10 at 05:50 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because the question was not addressed to you.
    I know it was not addressed to me, and incidentally it applies to neither of us because neither of us seem to believe in affirmative action. My question was what supporting affirmative action would have to do with supporting regulating reproduction. Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. Would somebody who believes in having more minorities in jobs and schools have to be opposed to reproductive regulation in order to be consistent? I don't see how.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    I know it was not addressed to me, and incidentally it applies to neither of us because neither of seem to believe in affirmative action. My question was what supporting affirmative action would have to do with supporting regulating reproduction. Hypocrisy is saying one thing and doing another. Would somebody who believes in having more minorities in jobs and schools have to be opposed to reproductive regulation in order to be consistent? I don't see how.
    That is why I asked if I was wrong.

    You did read the whole thing right?
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is why I asked if I was wrong.

    You did read the whole thing right?
    Yes but I don't care whether you were wrong about her position on affirmative action or not. Suppose she had been some other person who was actually for AA. How would it be hypocritical to support reproductive regulation?

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Wait wait I get it. You associate reproductive regulation with eugenics, which historically wanted to use reproductive regulation to reduce the numbers and influence of minorities. If that's the case you would simply be wrong because reproductive regulation doesn't have to be supportive of eugenics.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    Wait wait I get it. You associate reproductive regulation with eugenics, which historically wanted to use reproductive regulation to reduce the numbers and influence of minorities. If that's the case you would simply be wrong because reproductive regulation doesn't have to be supportive of eugenics.
    But it would control indirectly the birth rates of many minority's. I am certain many would love to see it done for that reason.
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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    But it would control indirectly the birth rates of many minority's. I am certain many would love to see it done for that reason.
    Well it doesn't matter whether racists like it or not, or whether it disproportionately affects minorities or not as "race" is a social construct that we ought to remember to forget about. What matters to me is the innocent 3rd parties, i.e. children and taxpayers, do not have to pay for the behavior of irresponsible parents. And when they bring children into the world that they cannot care for, and those children subsequently have problems, that does a lot more to perpetuate racism than simply having fewer of them. Poverty breeds crime, and a lack of opportunities breed both. Maybe we could build more schools and fewer prisons. Better for everybody.
    Last edited by LiveUninhibited; 04-21-10 at 06:05 PM.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog
    But it would control indirectly the birth rates of many minority's. I am certain many would love to see it done for that reason.
    I'm an "end justifies the means" guy. Whether perpetuated by legitimate socioeconomic change or racism, if it works I'm not about to question it. I'm all about elimination the procreation of trash - whatever color their skin is.

    I just find it ironic that Klansmen support this kind of thing when it would eventually wipe out their ignorant masses too.

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    Re: Who, if anyone, should be put on State mandated birth control?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    A hissy fit?
    Please. If you were Victorian, you'd have fainted and had the vapors.

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