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Should home-schooling be illegal?

Should home-schooling be illegal?


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Homeschooling certainly shouldn't be illegal. However, I think some parents do homeschooling for the wrong reasons. Some do it because they want to isolate their kids from the "evil liberal" teachings of the modern education system, or they believe in Creationism so strongly that they can't stand the thought of their kids being taught about evolution. In short, some parents do it because they want to keep their kids in a cloistered, isolated, tightly controlled environment. I think that's wrong. However, homeschooling in general isn't a bad thing, and I don't think most parents who homeschool are necessarily like that.
 
Freedom for everyone except the religious! A wonderful dream for America!
Cults aren't religions. I think that evilgelical Christianity should be officially classified as a cult and lose its protected religious status. It's just the American version of Sharia Islam - slightly less extreme, but completely depraved, corporatized, politicized, and totally anti-Christ and a joke of a religion. It's only about money and political power, and building an army of brainwashed cult zombies from an early age is a great way for these dirtbags to stay in power.

And since when do kids who are brainwashed and abused by an evil cult have "freedom of religion"?

Freedom for the oppressors to oppress the innocent! A wonderful dream for AmericKKKa! I'm pretty sure if the founders' had been born in the year 2000 they would have made an exception to the 1st Amendment to exclude radical cultists from getting any special rights that normal people don't get.
 
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Freedom for everyone except the religious! A wonderful dream for America!

It is also Fascism, plain and simple.
 
Cults aren't religions. I think that evilgelical Christianity should be officially classified as a cult and lose its protected religious status. It's just the American version of Sharia Islam - slightly less extreme, but completely depraved, corporatized, politicized, and totally anti-Christ and a joke of a religion. It's only about money and political power, and building an army of brainwashed cult zombies from an early age is a great way for these dirtbags to stay in power.

And since when do kids who are brainwashed and abused by an evil cult have "freedom of religion"?

Freedom for the oppressors to oppress the innocent! A wonderful dream for AmericKKKa! I'm pretty sure if the founders' had been born in the year 2000 they would have made an exception to the 1st Amendment to exclude radical cultists from getting any special rights that normal people don't get.

Every religion on the face of the planet can just about be called a cult under the true definition.

So that argument is pretty weak as well.
 
Freedom for everyone except the religious! A wonderful dream for America!

It is also Fascism, plain and simple.

In what way?

Religion itself in America has a neo-fascist component.


" Neo-fascism and religion refers to debates about the relationships between neo-fascism and various religions.
Some scholars, using the term neo-fascism in its narrow sense, consider certain contemporary religious movements and groups to represent forms of clerical or theocratic neofascism, including Christian Identity in the United States; some militant forms of politicized Islamic fundamentalism; Hindu nationalism in India (Sangh Parivar); and some neopagan alternative religions advocating white supremacism. .... "

Wiki
 
In what way?

Religion itself in America has a neo-fascist component.


" Neo-fascism and religion refers to debates about the relationships between neo-fascism and various religions.
Some scholars, using the term neo-fascism in its narrow sense, consider certain contemporary religious movements and groups to represent forms of clerical or theocratic neofascism, including Christian Identity in the United States; some militant forms of politicized Islamic fundamentalism; Hindu nationalism in India (Sangh Parivar); and some neopagan alternative religions advocating white supremacism. .... "

Wiki

Did you read what I was responding to?

Actually this is exactly what I am referring to...

"The most disturbing part of the Harper’s cover story (the one by Chris Hedges) was the attempt to link Christian conservatives with Hitler and fascism. Once we acknowledge the similarity between conservative Christians and fascists, Hedges appears to suggest, we can confront Christian evil by setting aside "the old polite rules of democracy."

Same old George Bush mantra.

The problem with his argument is it is Facism...

"Fascists advocate the creation of a single-party state, with the belief that the majority is unsuited to govern itself through democracy and by reaffirming the benefits of inequality."

Wiki

PS sorry about the late edit. Did not need the whole paragraph as it really does not pertain to his comments.
 
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I believe a lot of Baptist homeschool; and by and large Baptists are not a "organized" religion. BTW one can belong to an organized religion and still distrust the organization. :mrgreen:



I have no argument with you there. But here in the US it is mostly what some splinter groups ( Creationists, Relativist, Child Righters, and other group thinkers) want and what the teacher unions want (which is not the same thing a what the teachers want) along with the Pols (who like to stand before ribbons to be cut as opposed to setting non-visible standards that would be more important.) The problem with government schools is a blanket solution a one size fits all which modern Cognitive Theories show is wrong.




:confused: I need you to expand on this to understand what you mean.



Your county has a state religion. Ours do not. Yours probably require that all people who belong to an organized religion to Tithe and have proof of the Tithe to their church by the IRS (Inland Revenue Service ( I just knew that)). That would be an explanation of the lack of actively religious people in BG.

And establishing a requirement for religious instruction in government schools is not going to happen in the US due to the 1st Amendment.



BlackDog said most of it for me. One could put that Fundy in a standard classroom and poison even more minds. Would you accept that as an acceptable reason to end government school instruction? If not, how is your argument one that shows homeschooling is detrimental in general?



In what way? Passing standard achievement tests? Jame Rage already addressed that. Moral or Ethical standards? Child Endangerment, and Contributing Delinquency to a Minor laws address that. What more must be regulated to make it merely O.K. ?
:rofl I'm sorry, I am dyslexic, I thought the thread was, Should home shopping be illegal.

Would a Mod do me the service of removing my out of context posts from this thread:lol:
 
I think home church might be more beneficial to society in general than home school. :sun
 
I think home church might be more beneficial to society in general than home school. :sun
Ahhhh, the subtle yet fragrant use of sarcasm:)
 
Freedom for everyone except the religious! A wonderful dream for America!
Since when do Voodoo practitioners have the legal freedom to practice human cannibalism? Or when do Rastafarians have the legal right to smoke weed? I guess banning weed and human cannibalism is "fascism" and "religious discrimination" by your standard since "some religions" consider those legitimate practices.

You don't want "freedom of religion". You just want YOUR cult...err religion to enjoy special rights that others' don't get, and when people agree that you're stupid for it, you whine like a 2 year old about "fascism".

I don't have the right to teach my kid that Zeus causes thunderstorms instead of natural processes, and have that counted towards a "science" credit. So why should cultists who believe in talking snakes and magical fruit be allowed to have that credited as a "science" course?

:doh


It is also Fascism, plain and simple.
I guess you're the kind of guy who thinks that a radical Muslim cleric teaching kids in an Islamic school to hate the infidels and praise the 9/11 hijackers is "hunkie dorie", but someone actually speaking out against that is a fascist.

No surprise. You're spouting the same propaganda that Hitler and the Nazi party did before they got into power.

And based on your definition, I guess "fascism" isn't necessarily a bad thing then. I think I'll join the American Fascist Party (oh wait, they're Christian).

:doh
 
In what way?

Religion itself in America has a neo-fascist component.


" Neo-fascism and religion refers to debates about the relationships between neo-fascism and various religions.
Some scholars, using the term neo-fascism in its narrow sense, consider certain contemporary religious movements and groups to represent forms of clerical or theocratic neofascism, including Christian Identity in the United States; some militant forms of politicized Islamic fundamentalism; Hindu nationalism in India (Sangh Parivar); and some neopagan alternative religions advocating white supremacism. .... "

Wiki
Brainwashing kids in fundie cult indoctrination camps a la Hitler Youth = "American freedom"

Preventing these kids from being abused by a cult = "fascism/religious discrimination"

Gotta love how the fundie mind works. :shock:
 
Of course not. So long as the home school meets the state requirements for same, there's no reason to eliminate them.

Its all about choice, see...
 
Of course not. So long as the home school meets the state requirements for same, there's no reason to eliminate them.

Its all about choice, see...
That's what I said. Only problem is, right now a lot of homeschool curriculum aren't required to meet the same state requirements.
 
No. I'd rather home schooling be made illegal. It is nothing more than double talk for being religiously backwards.
Wow... talk about bigotry and intolerance...
 
Wow... talk about bigotry and intolerance...
What's wrong with being bigoted and intolerant? Tolerant people are usually too weak to take a stand on anything.

I guess if a Muslim couple wants to homeschool their kid and teach them that Allah commanded them to kill the infidels, we should allow that because being "intolerant" is worse than teaching a kid to be a terrorist. **** tolerance.
 
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I guess if a Muslim couple wants to homeschool their kid and teach them that Allah commanded them to kill the infidels, we should allow that because being "intolerant" is worse than teaching a kid to be a terrorist. **** tolerance.
News for you bub... if the parents want to teach this, they dont need to have their kids schooled at home to do it.
 
News for you bub... if the parents want to teach this, they dont need to have their kids schooled at home to do it.
And it should be allowed because restricting it = "religious discrimination"?
 
And it should be allowed because restricting it = "religious discrimination"?
Here's the thing about a free society:
You can hold whatever thoughts you want.
Its when you -do- something with those thoughts that you cross the line.
 
Since when do Voodoo practitioners have the legal freedom to practice human cannibalism? Or when do Rastafarians have the legal right to smoke weed?

Fallacy in the extreme. You try to compare weed smoking because of religion with cannibalism?

Please. :lol:

Religion in America is free to practice until it infringes on the rights of someone else.

I guess banning weed and human cannibalism is "fascism" and "religious discrimination" by your standard since "some religions" consider those legitimate practices.

This is just a red herring. :roll:

You don't want "freedom of religion". You just want YOUR cult...err religion to enjoy special rights that others' don't get, and when people agree that you're stupid for it, you whine like a 2 year old about "fascism".

Ad Hom's are against the rules. They also show a complete and utter lack of anything to back up your argument.

I don't have the right to teach my kid that Zeus causes thunderstorms instead of natural processes, and have that counted towards a "science" credit. So why should cultists who believe in talking snakes and magical fruit be allowed to have that credited as a "science" course?

Actually you do have that right. Of course when they get older and see you are a complete idiot, this will probably change.

I guess you're the kind of guy who thinks that a radical Muslim cleric teaching kids in an Islamic school to hate the infidels and praise the 9/11 hijackers is "hunkie dorie", but someone actually speaking out against that is a fascist.

Not really. Preaching violence and preaching creationism are do very different things.

That is a really dumb argument you got there. :doh

No surprise. You're spouting the same propaganda that Hitler and the Nazi party did before they got into power.

Yea, because Hitler was all about freedom. :roll:

And based on your definition, I guess "fascism" isn't necessarily a bad thing then. I think I'll join the American Fascist Party (oh wait, they're Christian).

:doh

No they are not.

Why don't you research before spouting nonsense...

http://www.americanfascistmovement.com/platform.html
 
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I homeschooled my oldest for 6 months - not because I had a problem with public school - but because they could only help him to a certain extent with his developmental issues.

Not saying that they didn't help out alot - but he had other problems that needed attention and schools don't and can't provide that - he was suffering.

Homeschooling him was difficult but it helped get him back on track with those other issues.
 
I homeschool my kids, so obviously I don't think it should be illegal. I would be fine with having more oversight, as it is each state decides how much oversight and that ranges from none to super-intense. I could see, for example, requiring homeschooled kids to take a national exam once a year at an approved testing center. There's a lot of heated debate in the homeschool forums I frequent on this issue, most lobby for less or no oversight, but I've heard too many stories of kids who are supposedly "homeschooled" but in fact are just neglected.

But I am not really on board with granting asylum in this specific case. I think that's a different issue altogether.
 
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