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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That may be true, but you must admit that back then, there was far less information that was required to be successful, or even be functioning. This is a very different time.
    Different context but not necessarily less information.

    Knowing crop measurements and the like back then while now you should know how interest rates work.

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    And I'm willing to bet that most of the supporters are not. So what?
    It's a self perpetuating stereotype.

    Some people think that because it worked for them, it must work for everyone while discounting all the people it didn't work for.

    Most of these criticisms are based on unproven stereotypes.
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    What you call bigotry, others may term valid concerns. Of course I am concerned about religious indoctrination, as well as other forms. Religion has been the cause of more bloodshed in history than any other element.
    And the tried and true "religion has caused" is a lie. Man (without religion) has been the cause of more deaths than anything else in the world.

    WWI & WWII had nothing to do with religion as far as causes of the wars go. WWI and WWII caused more deaths than every war about religion including the crusades and Inquisition combined.

    Iraq, Vietnam and Korea had nothing to do with religion.

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    But your comments in your last posts lead me to believe that little will be gained in discussing this matter further with you, so perhaps it would be best if we were to agree to disagree. I am not saying you are wrong in your beliefs, but I am not interested in a adversarial religious debate. Little other than ill-feeling will come of that.
    I agree.

    Have a good one.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I don't agree. I think the only real difference is the rate of information thrown at us today.

    I mean lets face it, the village idiot is alive and well in the US and the rest of the world.
    There is far more information that is currently available then there was in the 1700's. Come on, Blackdog... it is absurd to think otherwise.



    Don't agree with that either. I would say most of the people in this thread are probably public school graduates. Not that this makes any difference.
    Perhaps, but I'm willing to bet that the "supporters" either were homeschooled or are currently homeschooling. But we're both correct... it is irrelevant and just a logical fallacy.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Different context but not necessarily less information.

    Knowing crop measurements and the like back then while now you should know how interest rates work.
    I do not agree. We are talking about nearly 300 years of advancements and developments. I stand by my statement.


    It's a self perpetuating stereotype.

    Some people think that because it worked for them, it must work for everyone while discounting all the people it didn't work for.

    Most of these criticisms are based on unproven stereotypes.
    Which is why I said it was irrelevant.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    There is far more information that is currently available then there was in the 1700's. Come on, Blackdog... it is absurd to think otherwise.
    Yes and we have access to all of it MUCH faster. Even if they had the info then, they would not be able to access it so fast. Today we get it instantly and THAT my good Captain is the difference, not the amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Perhaps, but I'm willing to bet that the "supporters" either were homeschooled or are currently homeschooling. But we're both correct... it is irrelevant and just a logical fallacy.
    Possibly, but looking at the poll I doubt it.

    I am not home schooled!
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Yes and we have access to all of it MUCH faster. Even if they had the info then, they would not be able to access it so fast. Today we get it instantly and THAT my good Captain is the difference, not the amount.
    I disagree. Advancements in ALL fields in the last 300 years have been tremendous. There is far more information out there now then there was, then. Then, the amount of information needed was far less. It IS about quantity.



    Possibly, but looking at the poll I doubt it.

    I am not home schooled!
    The poll asks a very different question and has no relevance to whether someone was homeschooled, or even supports homeschooling or not. I am not a fan of homeschooling, but as I said in my very first post, it is ridiculous to consider making it illegal. WHERE a child obtains their education is a parent's job... within reason. And homeschooling is certainly within that reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I do not agree. We are talking about nearly 300 years of advancements and developments. I stand by my statement.
    Civilization has existed for more than 5000 years, man has existed for far longer than that.

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    Which is why I said it was irrelevant.
    If there is valid criticism, i want to see proof otherwise it's just opinionated garbage based on stereotype.
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Civilization has existed for more than 5000 years, man has existed for far longer than that.
    Correct. And with each passing era, more and more information is learned and developed, and more is required to navigate our changing world.



    If there is valid criticism, i want to see proof otherwise it's just opinionated garbage based on stereotype.
    Ummm... I think I agreed with you that the stereotype of "what works for me, would work for others" on either side of the coin is irrelevant. I'm not sure if you are responding to something else, here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Correct. And with each passing era, more and more information is learned and developed, and more is required to navigate our changing world.
    I will have to disagree if we are talking about the population at large.
    Individuals who use more advanced information, it's probably true.

    A lot of people still believe old wife tales and things that have been proven untrue.


    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Ummm... I think I agreed with you that the stereotype of "what works for me, would work for others" on either side of the coin is irrelevant. I'm not sure if you are responding to something else, here.
    I know you agree on that but I get super annoyed at detractors, it makes me boil.
    No one has presented anything that says a child, educated at home, is of a lesser quality.
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    Re: Should home-schooling be illegal?

    as an atheist who is ambivalent to people of faith, but has controlled contempt for organized religion.

    The quality education of our children should be the reason detre of any civilized society.

    This enables children to make lucid decisions, that is why I support the law of the land in the UK that all children in Government funded schools should have a set minimum number of hours of religious instruction a week.

    It is no surprise to me that after 40 or 50 yrs of this law, we have the lowest number of actively religious people in our country. I therefore as an Atheist hope you implement a similar laws in your country.

    BlackDog mate, there is a poster , he was banned from PF for his religious bigotry and vile Homophobic statements.

    He converted To Islam, prior to his conversion he claimed he was a Fundy homophobic Christian Sunday school teacher.

    He now home schools his new family as a Fundy homophobic Muslim bigot.

    How many from either camp are out there legally poisoning there children's minds.

    I don't disagree with homeschooling per se but the authorities must strictly regulate it, that probably does not happen because of costs.

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