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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Anyone who thinks that term limits will instantly get us a good government needs to look to California to see that it's just not true.
    California has other problems that don't apply to the federal government. Specifically, California has voter initiatives that result in all sorts of irresponsible crap being passed, and an imbalance between the votes needed for spending increases (simple majority) and tax increases (supermajority).

    And no one suggested that term limits will instantly get us a good government. But it will certainly help.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I'd rather have it left to a computer and require that all districts ought to be roughly the same population and must be contiguous. Right now, politicians are picking and choosing by the neighborhood what goes into their district, even if it's just unconnected bits and pieces here and there.
    And if possible leave all gray areas in the calculations to a random number generator.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    And if possible leave all gray areas in the calculations to a random number generator.
    Certainly. I just want a computer to draw lines, keeping general populations equivalent, without any regard for the political bent of the particular area. District lines need to be re-drawn at least once a decade to keep political hacks from getting too comfortable. That way, they actually have to represent their districts instead of representing their personal political interests.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    And no one suggested that term limits will instantly get us a good government. But it will certainly help.
    If it would help, then we would have seen some effect in California, but it's worse here than ever before.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    But you do support the past ones(minus the 18th)?
    Mostly. I am not a big fan of the 22nd. I am not against amendments, even going forward, but I think there needs to be overwhelming reason to amend the constitution, and I don't see this as being such a reason. This is the same reason I don't advocate repealing the 22nd, because I don't think there is overwhelming reason to do so, even though I don't really care for it.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    One of the big problems in our country are career politicians. I don't really see this amendment getting passed, because that would require the politicians on The Hill to think about whats best for their constituents, and not whats best for them.Most, if not all Congressmen do care about their constituants, but some care too much about themselves (power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely)
    That is a problem, one the Constitutional framers did not think of. The states could do this thru an amendent??
    I'd favor 2 six year Senate terms and 2 four years House terms. And one thing that is absolutely wrong is the ancient two year term for the representatives....this should have been changed during the previous century.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    I am all for them. It would get rid of some of the dictators in congress.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by other View Post
    Throw in something to prevent ridiculous jerry-mandering too though...


    ***** That would have to be a seperate Constitutional Amendment .

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinc Route View Post
    ***** That would have to be a seperate Constitutional Amendment .
    Good idea float both at the same time.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    If it would help, then we would have seen some effect in California, but it's worse here than ever before.
    And as I said, California has some quirks that the federal government does not have, which makes its government particularly dysfunctional: Voter initiatives, and a disparity in the process between spending increases and tax increases. These things have nothing to do with term limits. By citing California, you are effectively saying that because California has term limits and a dysfunctional government, the former must have caused the latter (or at least not improved the later). This logic doesn't make sense since there are 49 other states and 191 other countries, many of which have term limits and functional governments.
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