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Thread: Congressional term limits

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    One of the big problems in our country are career politicians. I don't really see this amendment getting passed, because that would require the politicians on The Hill to think about whats best for their constituents, and not whats best for them.
    I doubt this will happen. All it will do is turn former law makers into highly paid lobbiests or "consultants" in large companies that much faster. I can see a scenario where it might actually increase the influence of special interests.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, I generally oppose any constitutional amendments. I can't think of one I would support. Currently that is, the ones in place, I don't think we should mess with.
    But you do support the past ones(minus the 18th)?
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Why is that any law that suggests limiting politicians is automatically frowned upon by the right?

    Is the right not aware that politicians are like diapers? They need to be changed often and for the same reason!

    You should probably read a thread first or at least look at the poll results before making comments like that.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I do not support any additional amendments, 1 I can't trust congress to leave the amending process to this single item
    Amendments have to be ratified by the states. If you look at the successful amendments to the US Constitution, nearly ALL of them are very short and simple. There's no way they could pass if they added a bunch of other crap to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla
    and 2 because the person in their last year will act much the same as a president and not worry about being re-elected,to which they will vote for any garbage that benefits them.
    Well, that's the idea...to increase the number of people willing to make unpopular but necessary decisions, without constantly worrying about reelection.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Anyone who thinks that term limits will instantly get us a good government needs to look to California to see that it's just not true.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Those are fine, although I'd take it one step further and say that you can only serve a certain number of terms consecutively, perhaps 2-3, then you must spend a minimum of one term working in the private sector (not in the government in any way, shape or form) before you are eligible to run for *ANY* other political office whatsoever, local, state or federal. These people are entirely out of touch with reality, Washington D.C. is a fantasy land where politicians live in ivory towers and occasionally deign to deal with the people who put them there.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Anyone who thinks that term limits will instantly get us a good government needs to look to California to see that it's just not true.
    Term limits *AND* redistricting would do California a world of good. The problem is, the districts are drawn in such a way that no party ever has to worry about being tossed out on their ear, they're completely safe unless they get absurdly abusive, thus one political hack is largely identical to the one that just left office.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Term limits *AND* redistricting would do California a world of good. The problem is, the districts are drawn in such a way that no party ever has to worry about being tossed out on their ear, they're completely safe unless they get absurdly abusive, thus one political hack is largely identical to the one that just left office.
    I have no problem with redistricting being left to an independent party.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    I suppose term limits could work if the ex politician is unable to associate with any other politician for two or three years after. The problem with that is the first amendment though. So I don't think this sill solve anything.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I have no problem with redistricting being left to an independent party.
    I'd rather have it left to a computer and require that all districts ought to be roughly the same population and must be contiguous. Right now, politicians are picking and choosing by the neighborhood what goes into their district, even if it's just unconnected bits and pieces here and there.
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