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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Would you support this amendment to the US Constitution?

    Section 1.
    No person shall be elected to the office of Senator for a full term more than twice, and no person who has held the office of Senator for more than two years shall be elected to the office of Senator more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of Senator when this Article was ratified by the States, for as long as that person continuously holds the office of Senator.

    Section 2.
    No person shall be elected to the office of Representative more than four times. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of Representative when this Article was ratified by the States, for as long as that person continuously holds the office of Representative.
    I say yes but minus the grandfather clause.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Would you support this amendment to the US Constitution?

    Section 1.
    No person shall be elected to the office of Senator for a full term more than twice, and no person who has held the office of Senator for more than two years shall be elected to the office of Senator more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of Senator when this Article was ratified by the States, for as long as that person continuously holds the office of Senator.

    Section 2.
    No person shall be elected to the office of Representative more than four times. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of Representative when this Article was ratified by the States, for as long as that person continuously holds the office of Representative.
    I'm all for term limits, but would like to see a term of maybe 4 to 6 years... and then I think the above would be acceptable. I would also like to see salary caps and salary increases voted on by that individuals constituents. Put "by the people, for the people" back into practical application.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I oppose term limits as I feel they limit the choice of voters.
    You couldn't be more wrong.

    30+ year dynasties of "ruling class" incumbents who ensure that no one else can afford to campaign against them limits the choice of voters.

    What did you think when they wheeled Sen. Byrd into the S.O.T.U speech tonight, drooling all over himself? Is that what W.V. deserves? No, it's their only choice b/c the Byrd campaign gets all the money.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I oppose term limits as I feel they limit the choice of voters.
    You oppose presidential term limits?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I say yes but minus the grandfather clause.
    There's no way it could ever be adopted by Congress without the grandfather clause.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    There's no way it could ever be adopted by Congress without the grandfather clause.
    Do you honestly think any of them would even support it with the grandfather clause in it? I would be happy with the grandfather clause in it if thats what it took to get its foot in the door and passed.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 01-28-10 at 12:46 AM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    If you like how your congressman is working, keep him in, if not, kick the bum out. Thats our system. I get the term limits for the pres., but I dont get how limiting congressmen is going to change anything.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Do you honestly think any of them would even support it with the grandfather clause in it?
    Possibly. It wouldn't personally affect them, so if they thought it was a good idea for the country they'd probably support it.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Throw in something to prevent ridiculous jerry-mandering too though...

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Since this is like the 5th thread I've seen on the topic I might as well just cut&paste from my older response as to why I support term limits:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    A few reasons.

    One of them is specific to the legislature: a person's vote in Minnesota affects me here in Virginia, even though I do not get to vote for Minnesota's Congressional representation. Human nature is, people are going to want a powerful representative to make their state more powerful than the rest. The best way to do this is to keep voting people in office until they have a lot of seniority. Term limits would equalize the power in Congress.

    Then there's the fact that incumbents have a huge advantage in elections, both in fund raising and in name-recognition. This is also true because a party wants to keep its power, and is afraid that tough primary competition will weaken their chances of keeping their hold. Places represented by the majority party have significantly higher incumbency rates than other places.

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