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Thread: Congressional term limits

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because no one ever thinks THEIR congressman is part of the problem. It's the 434 other guys, and the stupid voters from those other districts.
    So?

    That doesn't make any sense. You're saying they vote for people with more name recognition because they like people with more name recognition, and not because they, umm, recognize their name?
    No, you are.

    They would still be free to vote for a politician with identical political views.
    Sorry, but that's not good enough. You're still taking away a choice. People with identical political views are not just interchangable. These are individuals we're talking about, with unique qualities.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    They'll prevent them from voting the SAME stupid person into office repeatedly, which will at least make it more likely that they'll get a smart person occasionally.
    Why do you think you are smarter than the voters? What makes you qualified to tell them who they can't vote for?

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    There is not a single argument for term limits that doesn't boil down to "the voters should lose their choice because I think they make the wrong choices." It's anti-democracy.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    There is not a single argument for term limits that doesn't boil down to "the voters should lose their choice because I think they make the wrong choices." It's anti-democracy.
    I'm starting to wonder if term limits for the president are necessary.
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yet a majority of voters elect them. Apparently they think otherwise. Who are you to override their decision?
    It's not like I'm overthrowing the government, making myself dictator, and decreeing that there shall be term limits for all congressmen. I suggested a constitutional amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm starting to wonder if term limits for the president are necessary.
    Took you long enough!

    Yeah, those suck too. You'll notice they weren't in the original Constitution either. But I can see making an exception when there is enormous power in one single office.

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It's not like I'm overthrowing the government, making myself dictator, and decreeing that there shall be term limits for all congressmen. I suggested a constitutional amendment.
    So? Why should there be an amendment saying I can't vote for who I want to because someone else doesn't like it?

    BTW, did you know that in the 90s when term limits was a big thing, there were some districts where the voters actually voted for term limits while at the same time re-electing a congressman who was already past the term limit they voted for?

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Why do you think you are smarter than the voters?
    Because I am.

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    What makes you qualified to tell them who they can't vote for?
    Nothing makes me personally qualified. I suggested a constitutional amendment to change the process. Would you agree that the Constitution is qualified to do that?
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    Re: Congressional term limits

    misterman: You do realize that were a term limit Constitutional amendment to pass, it would have to do so... democratically?

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    Re: Congressional term limits

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    There is not a single argument for term limits that doesn't boil down to "the voters should lose their choice because I think they make the wrong choices." It's anti-democracy.
    Then why have any limitations on governmental power at all? What if the voters want to elect a president who promises to censor the press, detain people without trial, ignore the Supreme Court, and reinstate slavery? Wouldn't it be anti-democratic to point out that the Constitution doesn't allow those things, if that's what the voters want?
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