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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    yes they do, so far the H1N1 has killed 14,000 odd people, the seasonal flu kills about 500,000 people each year
    It's the mortality of the sickness that you need to look at.
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    The main cause of death with A-H1N1/09 is viral pneumonia with resulting ARDS (Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome). Even though treated in a hospital ICU, approximately 50% of ARDS cases result in death. In the French study, the number of ARDS cases was found to be one in every 5000 cases, giving the estimate of ARDS deaths as 1 in 10,000 cases of infection.

    The number of deaths from ARDS in seasonal flu cases, based on empirical evidence in France, is calculated to be between 5 and 10 each year out of an average annual number of seasonal flu cases of 6 million infections. Until better counts of cases are available, that gives a rough estimate of the deaths due to ARDS resulting from seasonal influenza of one out of a million infected patients.

    The 1 death in 10,000 cases from A-H1N1/09 compared to 1 in 1,000,000 from seasonal flu strains gives the prior mentioned indications of A-H1N1/09 being 100 times more virulent than seasonal flu.

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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Alvin T. Grey View Post
    It's the mortality of the sickness that you need to look at.
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    The main cause of death with A-H1N1/09 is viral pneumonia with resulting ARDS (Adult Respiratory Distress Syndrome). Even though treated in a hospital ICU, approximately 50% of ARDS cases result in death. In the French study, the number of ARDS cases was found to be one in every 5000 cases, giving the estimate of ARDS deaths as 1 in 10,000 cases of infection.

    The number of deaths from ARDS in seasonal flu cases, based on empirical evidence in France, is calculated to be between 5 and 10 each year out of an average annual number of seasonal flu cases of 6 million infections. Until better counts of cases are available, that gives a rough estimate of the deaths due to ARDS resulting from seasonal influenza of one out of a million infected patients.

    The 1 death in 10,000 cases from A-H1N1/09 compared to 1 in 1,000,000 from seasonal flu strains gives the prior mentioned indications of A-H1N1/09 being 100 times more virulent than seasonal flu.
    fair point, but your still more likely to catch and die from seasonal flu

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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    yes they do, so far the H1N1 has killed 14,000 odd people, the seasonal flu kills about 500,000 people each year
    A) We haven't yet gone through a complete flu season in the Northern Hemisphere since H1N1 first emerged as a threat, so you're comparing apples to oranges.

    B) The mortality rate for H1N1 is between 2 and 10 times that of regular flu, depending on the source.

    C) H1N1 is very genetically different from regular flu, and more likely to mutate into something more easily transmissible. Therefore even if it doesn't kill as many people this year, it could next year.

    D) Comparing the mortality rates doesn't make much sense anyway, because H1N1 and regular flu are likely to kill different types of people. Regular flu mostly kills the elderly, whereas H1N1 is much more likely to kill younger people. Therefore using the regular flu as your benchmark for whether or not you get vaccinated is absurd; the regular flu might not seem like a serious threat to you if you aren't in an at-risk group, but you could still be in an at-risk group for H1N1.

    E) Not getting a vaccine for ANY common and easily-preventable illness is just stupid.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    If you want to take it, go ahead. Nobody is stopping you. I personally don't see the point, H1N1 is not as bad as the regular flu, it's just been hyped by the media into something a lot worse than it actually is.

    If it makes you feel better to get the shot, go for it.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    My wife and I took it, but more importantly, our three-year-old got both doses.

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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    I had to post other. The H1N1 vaccine was rushed to market, and we have no idea of the side effects, which may show up in the future. The way I see it is that, if someone wants to take the risk, which is probably low, then taking the vaccine is probably a good idea. However, I am adamant that, should the government attempt to force people to take this vaccine, or any other, then I will fight it as hard as I possibly can. Government nannies can go to hell. However, if the government offers it as a choice, then I see no problem with it, except that it will cost too much to make. If the government nationalized the beer industry, they wouldn't be able to manufacture it for less than 100 bucks a six pack. Vaccine research and production is best left in the hands of the private sector, without government interference, unless price gouging is involved.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    With all the big deal made about this topic, I have yet to meet a person who caught the flu. Might just be my location.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I had to post other. The H1N1 vaccine was rushed to market, and we have no idea of the side effects, which may show up in the future. The way I see it is that, if someone wants to take the risk, which is probably low, then taking the vaccine is probably a good idea.
    It was made the exact same way as the normal seasonal flu shot that is distributed every year. If H1N1 had shown up a few months earlier then the antibodies would have been included in the normal seasonal flu shot. The timing and the danger made it necessary to repeat the whole process just for this one virus, but it isn't any different.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skateguy View Post
    With all the big deal made about this topic, I have yet to meet a person who caught the flu. Might just be my location.
    I had it. It lasted 2 weeks. It was pretty severe on the third day, but for the first 2 days, and for rest of the course after the third day, it was very mild.
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    Re: Should We Take The H1N1 Vaccine?

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I had it. It lasted 2 weeks. It was pretty severe on the third day, but for the first 2 days, and for rest of the course after the third day, it was very mild.
    I had a little flu also, but no different than the one I get every couple of years. Not a big deal as far as I could see.
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