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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Are any of them wearing turbans or burkas?......

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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Partisan View Post
    Are any of them wearing turbans or burkas?......
    This has any bearing whatsoever on his questions?
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

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    This has any bearing whatsoever on his questions?
    Why, yes it does.....

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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Then please explain how if you're actually doing anything more than trolling this thread.

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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    3. If a group of Chinese people assembled in front of the Empire State Building taking numerous pictures would it be fine to forcefully get them to disperse and arrest any that wouldn't.

    5. If an individual from Russia is thought of as a suspect for a crime and is poor at speaking english do you believe its fine for the cops to get him in an interrogation room and tell him if he confesses and said he did it he'll get out within a day and back home?

    So, which of these scenarios do you feel is perfectly acceptable legally?
    As far as I know, these two would be legal. Freedom of assembly often requires a permit, the police have the right to break up a crowd when necessary. And as far as I know the police have the right to detain someone for questioning, though you didn't specify whether or not Miranda rights were conveyed. And the police are allowed to lie to you.
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    And as far as I know the police have the right to detain someone for questioning, though you didn't specify whether or not Miranda rights were conveyed. And the police are allowed to lie to you.
    They are allowed to lie about certain things...mostly factual things (e.g. your buddy already confessed and ratted you out), not the law itself. Lying to a foreigner who knows little about our language or legal system in an effort to elicit a false confession would almost certainly not be legal.
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    They are allowed to lie about certain things...mostly factual things (e.g. your buddy already confessed and ratted you out), not the law itself. Lying to a foreigner who knows little about our language or legal system in an effort to elicit a false confession would almost certainly not be legal.
    Why does the quality of being a foreigner visiting the USA equal lack of knowledge of our legal system?

    After all, I lack knowledge of our (the USA's) legal system and in some cases, specific words of our language, while at the same time being a natural-born citizen of the USA.

    And I'm actually apparently above average in IQ. If that means anything.
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Why does the quality of being a foreigner visiting the USA equal lack of knowledge of our legal system?
    Foreigners are entitled to consult with their embassy or consulate, which can tell them about American law.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark
    After all, I lack knowledge of our (the USA's) legal system
    It wouldn't be legal for the police to falsely tell YOU that if you confess, you'll be released within a day either. That's just preying upon those who are not well-acquainted with the American legal system and is an abuse of power.
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Foreigners are entitled to consult with their embassy or consulate, which can tell them about American law.
    Ok.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It wouldn't be legal for the police to falsely tell YOU that if you confess, you'll be released within a day either. That's just preying upon those who are not well-acquainted with the American legal system and is an abuse of power.
    Are you sure of this?

    I am under the impression that you may be incorrect.
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    Re: Should foreigns have the following protections

    My answer would be "No" to all of those. If a person is in the US and they commit a crime the situation should be handled under the laws of the US. And since under the law we're all "supposed" to be equals...
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