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Thread: Was Malcolm X...

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    Was Malcolm X...

    A good man?
    Good for America?

    Yes?
    No?

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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    I think he's a radical, though I don't know all that much about him. Pacifism is the way to go.

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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    He fought for his people and died for them. What more can we ask of any man?

    As for whether or not he was "good for America"... I don't think he was. His people were never the whole American people, and he was never ambiguous about that. I'd argue that he likewise didn't do that much good for the people he considered his people-- as he helped deepen and harden the differences between African Americans and the rest of the American people, which has made it more difficult for them to be recognized as a part of the whole.

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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    You asked two questions and only had one possibility to answer. Was he a good man? I don't know, I never met him, it's an entirely subjective question anyhow. I don't think he was necessarily good for America though, just as someone already said. He wasn't out to improve America, he was out to improve the lot of his one particular ethnic group. There's nothing wrong with that, especially given the status that said group had at the time, but to work to increase the status of one group instead of overall equality for all is counterproductive. It's saying "these people over here need to be treated better" and not "everyone, everywhere, need to be treated the same."
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    He believed in self defense and gun ownership so it was ok in some aspects, in others he was a complete asshole.
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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    I voted no, but then realized I couldn't really have answered the 1st question posed.

    As to the second, no, I don't think he was good for america.

    Not necessarily bad, either.
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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I voted no, but then realized I couldn't really have answered the 1st question posed.

    As to the second, no, I don't think he was good for america.

    Not necessarily bad, either.
    OK... let's scrub the first part and only stick to the second question.

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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    A good man?
    Good for America?

    Yes?
    No?

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    Ex-con and con man. Spent a few years in prison. Cheated on his wife a lot. Was a member of the Nation of Islam for a few years. Believed white people were all created by the devil.

    So... No. Not a good guy. And like all people who associate themselves with violent people (which he did) eventually the violent ones came looking for him. And found him.
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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    Good man?


    Yes. He put his money where his mouth is, he lived what he preached. He fought for his people, he was honorable and brave.

    Good for the country?

    He might have been great for the country, if he wasnt assacinated. He was coming around to the fact that he couldnt create a all Black nation, he realised he would have to lead his people to a common land with the White majority. He was a strong, and respectable role model, but with him and King dead, and the rempant prolifiration of drugs in the community, the black quest toward fully breaking the bonds that held them have been delayed. Not even the election of Obama is really enough at this stage, the community needs more role models, it needs to find its self respect.

    What everyone has to realise, is that there shouldnt be a black America and a White a America, there shouldnt be clear and present walls in place. We must not only break the walls of race but also of cultural and long term cycle of poverty that are prevelant in many communities in this nation. Our Union is only as strong as the weakest member, and as a Superpower of unequal prosperity and power it is a disgrace to have such a division between the haves and hte have nots. How can The shinning light of the world have cities like Baltimore and Detriot falling apart, and gated communties making prisoners of both those inside and outside its walls?

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    Re: Was Malcolm X...

    He was only good for America if you believe that preaching violence is good. He was also a racist and and antisemite who converted to Islam in prison. After getting out of prison he became a member of the racist orgaization Nation of Islam.

    He did however eventually renounce violence and racism and did alot of good for his people.

    If he were alive today would he align himself with the likes of the vile and hateful racist Louis Farrakhan? I think so.
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