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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winnb View Post
    There is no such thing as censorship on a privately owned forum. So no, it's not censorship.
    Well, that's nonsense.

    OF COURSE there's censorship. Type the four letter word for "excrement" on this forum and see the happy little stars!

    The fact is, it's privately owned and hence no Constitutional rule against censorship applies here.

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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Of course, in this case there was no elimination of speech--it was simply moved to a forum that disrespected the message. Since many of us don't understand the message, the action is neither censorship nor inappropriate.

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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Nope, its not a case of censorship (and even if it was, it wouldn't matter, its a private forum).

    It may be against their rules or code of conduct for Mods, but I don't know the rules over there really.

    Can't really tell you what we'd do over here cause I don't know the situation. for example, the mod seemed to indicate it was spam. If it really was spam we likely wouldn't move it to the humor forum...we'd delete it and probably ban or infract the person doing the spamming.

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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    I didn't know you could discuss othe forums at DP.
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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    No. This is a private forum. They can delete you, and it's not censorship.

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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGirlNextDoor View Post
    Is it censorship.. why? Because they moved it to the Humor and Satire forum?

    I don't understand. I would say if you've posted it more than once and they keep moving it, it's time for you to take a clue and move on.
    I have never posted anything twice. Reiver denounces everything I post as "spam." Communists are incapable of reasoned arguments and always and immediately resort to name-calling.

    If it is spam, then who am I spamming for? Wikipedia? The only link in my post is to a Wikipedia article. To be spam it would have to contain a link to a commercial site.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nope, its not a case of censorship (and even if it was, it wouldn't matter, its a private forum).

    It may be against their rules or code of conduct for Mods, but I don't know the rules over there really.

    Can't really tell you what we'd do over here cause I don't know the situation. for example, the mod seemed to indicate it was spam. If it really was spam we likely wouldn't move it to the humor forum...we'd delete it and probably ban or infract the person doing the spamming.
    Reiver is not a moderator. The moderator who moved my post did not give me an infraction or PM me.

    However, Reiver has special privileges denied to other discussants:

    1) He routinely speaks of "eliminating" capitalists. While he has (as far as I know) avoided the word "kill," that is clearly what he is advocating. What else does it mean to eliminate a whole class of people if not to kill them? On most forums, advocating violence would get one banned.

    2) Within minutes of my posting anything, Reiver denounces it as spam. This is true even when I post on other forums than the economics forum (the OP was on the education forum), which could not really happen so consistently if the moderators were not feeding him information on his critics.

    FYI: Reiver used to be Scucca here. He attacked my very first post on Debate Politics almost two years ago and has hounded my ever since.

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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Eater View Post
    I have never posted anything twice. Reiver denounces everything I post as "spam." Communists are incapable of reasoned arguments and always and immediately resort to name-calling.

    If it is spam, then who am I spamming for? Wikipedia? The only link in my post is to a Wikipedia article. To be spam it would have to contain a link to a commercial site.



    Reiver is not a moderator. The moderator who moved my post did not give me an infraction or PM me.

    However, Reiver has special privileges denied to other discussants:

    1) He routinely speaks of "eliminating" capitalists. While he has (as far as I know) avoided the word "kill," that is clearly what he is advocating. What else does it mean to eliminate a whole class of people if not to kill them? On most forums, advocating violence would get one banned.

    2) Within minutes of my posting anything, Reiver denounces it as spam. This is true even when I post on other forums than the economics forum (the OP was on the education forum), which could not really happen so consistently if the moderators were not feeding him information on his critics.

    FYI: Reiver used to be Scucca here. He attacked my very first post on Debate Politics almost two years ago and has hounded my ever since.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/archiv...nevitable.html
    Not to be rude, but why should anyone care about your petty grievance with some random poster on another forum when A) we're only hearing your side of the story, and B) it isn't interesting enough to merit further investigation anyway?

    To the mods, I would like to reiterate my suggestion that you "censor" this thread by moving it to the Basement.
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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Onion Eater View Post
    Is this an example of censorship?

    Obviously, I will never post anything at the Political Forum again. But I want to hear you guys' opinions. Is this an example of censorship?

    Does Debate Politics have a similar policy regarding posts that the moderators disagree with on ideological grounds?
    It isn't censorship, but might be abuse of powers by that moderator. Not to mention reivver or whatever sounded plain retarded.
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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No. This is a private forum. They can delete you, and it's not censorship.
    Again, I think you [and others] are confusing censorship/not with acceptable or not. The definition [of censorship] does not change just because it is a private forum. It is whether or not that censorship is acceptable (which in this case it may very well be since it is a private forum, BUT if the censoring does not conform to rules set forth by people running the forum, then questions could be raised)
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    Re: Is this an example of censorship?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Again, I think you [and others] are confusing censorship/not with acceptable or not. The definition [of censorship] does not change just because it is a private forum. It is whether or not that censorship is acceptable (which in this case it may very well be since it is a private forum, BUT if the censoring does not conform to rules set forth by people running the forum, then questions could be raised)
    Well, it all depends on how you define the word, of course. I tend to think of censorship as something a government does. I tend to think of it as a final straw in a sense.

    I'm not sure a private board "censors" as much as they "edit."

    If I write an article for a magazine and they say "This is too graphic for our readers" they are not censoring me; they are editing me. I can then go and try to find a more appropriate magazine for my work. I haven't really been "censored" because there are other outlets for my expression. I just have to find the right outlet.

    I guess I just bristle when the word censorship is used too frequently, because it is a loaded word that implies that the censor is imposing their heavy-handed views on everyone else...
    Last edited by Groucho; 01-26-10 at 09:06 PM.

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