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Thread: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    With your research capabilities perhaps it would appear to be some super-secret conspiracy.
    Personal attack noted.
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    Very good. We shall see if this lasts. However, at the outside, we're talking about another Cold War, not World War III.
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    Since you are research challenged, perhaps I can find a link for you on a statement from a Russian General.

    The Russian General has stated that the U.S. government concocted 9/11 to gain support for an aggressive foreign policy and to change many political policies within the U.S. itself.

    This same Russian General also expressed his wanting of a Geographic Strategic Alliance for an all out war against the U.S. and to stop the U.S. from influencing all of mankind.
    Conspiracy bull****.

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by elbatrop View Post
    no it wouldn't

    China is playing it very smartly and so is Russia.

    China needs oil and Russia has it, the US is a net importer that also a debtor nation on a path to its own demise, allying with the US would be stupid. There literally from their point of view is no future in a long term alliance with the US.

    All three nations are enaged in and have been for quite sometime now at locking up and controlling as much of the world's remaining energy as they can. For China one of its best options is to look to Russia not the US. This is also why China is actively courting Venezuela among other places like Caspian basin countries.

    China is holding US debt, enough debt that they can extort the US with it, its relationship with US is temporary, it won't last much longer. They probably know by now they won't get paid back but for now it is useful to them.
    So this translates into WW3 how?

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    China is getting ready for something big as is Russia...

    China has been hacking into the U.S. Military and Government Networks waging a cyber-war.



    July 2009: There were a series of coordinated attacks against major government, media, financial websites in the United States...

    Ghost Net: is the name given to a large scale cyber operation discovered in March 2009. It's command and control infrastructure is based mainly in China. This operation by China has infiltrated high value government offices, political, economic, media computer systems in the U.S. and 103 countries.

    Titan Rain: is U.S. Governments designated name given to a series of coordinated attacks on American State Sponsored Computer Systems and Corporate Espionage since 2003 that were Chinese in origin and the result of Chinese Military Hackers gathering information on U.S. Systems. This attack gained access to copy information from many U.S. Military Networks.

    Moonlight Maze: is U.S. Governments designated name given to a series of coordinated attacks on U.S. Computer Systems in 1999. The attacks were traced back to Moscow Russia. Those cyber warfare attacks obtained large amounts of data including classified Military Codes and Missile Guidance Systems.


    For those of you who have some stereotype of China's Military capabilities I can give you a rude awakening that the U.S. propaganda bubble would not show you...
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqicAnrUSP4"]YouTube- China Military Power 2009 δΈ*ε›½ε€§ι™†ε†›ι˜Ÿ2009ι’„ε‘Š[/ame]
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    So this translates into WW3 how?
    Well nations tend to go to war when they get antsy for resources and have large militaries to use rather than do things in a more honorable and forthright fashion. Having a large military and using it constantly means having vast resources to use to begin with.

    many wars have been fought over resources, and resources are going to get very very tight, many nations will be forced to go without, many will fight rather than adapt or change

    some nations even resort to lying and fabricating justification over it, as a general rule man isn't too smart collectively

    one of these days the little proxy wars and skirmishes will turn into something more serious, I think it is very likely it will happen at some stage soon

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    Personal attack noted.
    As was yours

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    Conspiracy bull****.
    Nope.....perhaps to the research challenged....

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    This is childish.

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    ...various statements, claims, and a Youtube link...
    Please, if you are going to claim such things, at least include links which support your claims, otherwise people will think you are just spouting stuff you read somewhere...
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    It's always possible. Just because we have nukes doesn't mean we have to use them, certainly we've refrained from dropping them in Iraq and Afghanistan so the idea that nuclear weapons must be used just because we have them is absurd.

    So long as nations are stupid, the possibility of wide-spread warfare exists.
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's always possible. Just because we have nukes doesn't mean we have to use them, certainly we've refrained from dropping them in Iraq and Afghanistan so the idea that nuclear weapons must be used just because we have them is absurd.

    So long as nations are stupid, the possibility of wide-spread warfare exists.
    And since nations are made up of people, run by people, and there will most likely always be stupid people, the possiblity of wide-spread warfare exists.
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    And since nations are made up of people, run by people, and there will most likely always be stupid people, the possiblity of wide-spread warfare exists.
    True, but individuals don't usually have unrestricted access to "big red buttons" that launch nukes, thankfully.
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