View Poll Results: Is there still risk of "global war"(between 2 or more of 7 large powers)

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    None of this changes the fact that we only spend 5% of our GDP on defense. Who cares what percent of the total world's defense spending we are? Seeing as how our economy is vastly larger than anyone else's, that's a meaningless statistic in this context.
    ya and how relevant is GDP? ever consider or notice how cooked that number really is?

    how relevant is the claimed "defense" budget of the US when it spends about 40-50% more than what it claims officially on defense?

    and better yet for a question that really gets to the heart of the matter, your in debt and spend more than you need to on defense yet the very make up of the defense program is ill suited to actual national defense and has proven incapable of protecting the US as well as proven incapable of performing the missions it is typical given so why do it that way?
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Nah.. Thats just paranoid fear based on a relatively small attack on two relatively meaningless buildings in a big world.
    It was the biggest single attack on the U.S., well, ever. Not exactly "relatively small".

    We went to war because of Pearl Harbor, and less people died there than on 9/11.

    The global militan Islam stuff is just a delusion created by the elite in the US to smash the will of their own people and grab as much power as they can.
    I'm done here; I feel no need to argue with conspiracy theorists.

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post

    The global militan Islam stuff is just a delusion created by the elite in the US to smash the will of their own people and grab as much power as they can.


    Are you sure it wasn't this fellow who told you that?
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    I believe there will be a 3rd world war. Perhaps Isreal, U.S., EU vs. Iran and...China? Well maybe China won't be involved but I'm pretty sure it would be the west against Iran and their allies (if they still have any!).

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    I believe there will be a 3rd world war. Perhaps Isreal, U.S., EU vs. Iran and...China? Well maybe China won't be involved but I'm pretty sure it would be the west against Iran and their allies (if they still have any!).
    A "world war" would have to involve two opposing sides which both have a lot of firepower. Iran doesn't qualify. That would just be a regular war.
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    A "world war" would have to involve two opposing sides which both have a lot of firepower. Iran doesn't qualify. That would just be a regular war.
    If the theory of them having nuclear weapons is true, it would be more than a regular war. If Israel attacks them, I'm sure Iran's allies will get involved. I read an article a few months back and it said Russia and China were against Israel attacking Iran.. so if that's true, they could possibly get involved.

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom View Post
    If the theory of them having nuclear weapons is true, it would be more than a regular war.
    It still wouldn't be a global war. At worst, it would just be a regular war with a nuke or two exploding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom
    If Israel attacks them, I'm sure Iran's allies will get involved.
    Iran doesn't have any allies. At least not any that are going to put their own security on the line to defend Iran.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom
    I read an article a few months back and it said Russia and China were against Israel attacking Iran.. so if that's true, they could possibly get involved.
    There's a big difference between them being opposed to an attack, and being willing to counter an attack with military force of their own.
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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It still wouldn't be a global war. At worst, it would just be a regular war with a nuke or two exploding.



    Iran doesn't have any allies. At least not any that are going to put their own security on the line to defend Iran.



    There's a big difference between them being opposed to an attack, and being willing to counter an attack with military force of their own.
    lot more to war than just military force and power

    some wars never have a shot fired

    having a big expensive military doesn't mean much either when you can be extorted financially, just ask Great Britain and the US, both have been extorted before because they were financially stupid

    having said that the US is a debtor nation with many vulnerabilities

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeMama View Post
    As long as there are fools willing to challenge the USA and its allies' superiority, there is always the possibility.

    To rule a war out would be unreasonable, as it would deny the existence of irrational people (and leaders).
    It is the U.S. that is constantly doing all the challenges since WWII.

    One example is upsetting China from sticking our nose in the affairs of China & Taiwan...Communist-ruled China split with Taiwan amid civil war in 1949 and continues to regard the self-governing democracy as part of its territory. Beijing has warned of a disruption in ties with Washington if the sale goes ahead, but has not said what specific actions it would take.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...e-Defense.html

    As far as dumb enough to challenge the U.S......

    China currently has an operational Carrier Killer Weapon System which the U.S. has no defense against. This system uses a supporting network of satellites, radar, and unmanned aerial vehicles(Drones) to track every U.S. ship.

    These Carrier Killer Missiles fly at Mach10 (10x speed of sound) and use evasive flight manuevers making the U.S. defenseless against them.

    It only takes one strike with these to destroy even the largest Aircraft Carrier the U.S. has.

    Using their Satellite tracking system China is capable of destroying every ship the U.S. has in less than 30 min.

    This is only the tip of the iceberg of China's capabilities which you will not hear about in the U.S. propaganda bubble.

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    Re: Do you believe in the possibility of a new global war?

    Quote Originally Posted by creativedreams View Post
    It is the U.S. that is constantly doing all the challenges since WWII.

    One example is upsetting China from sticking our nose in the affairs of China & Taiwan...Communist-ruled China split with Taiwan amid civil war in 1949 and continues to regard the self-governing democracy as part of its territory. Beijing has warned of a disruption in ties with Washington if the sale goes ahead, but has not said what specific actions it would take.
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...e-Defense.html

    As far as dumb enough to challenge the U.S......

    China currently has an operational Carrier Killer Weapon System which the U.S. has no defense against. This system uses a supporting network of satellites, radar, and unmanned aerial vehicles(Drones) to track every U.S. ship.

    These Carrier Killer Missiles fly at Mach10 (10x speed of sound) and use evasive flight manuevers making the U.S. defenseless against them.

    It only takes one strike with these to destroy even the largest Aircraft Carrier the U.S. has.

    Using their Satellite tracking system China is capable of destroying every ship the U.S. has in less than 30 min.

    This is only the tip of the iceberg of China's capabilities which you will not hear about in the U.S. propaganda bubble.
    And as ridiculous as the idea of a US-China war is, it is still only a two-party affair, not a world war.

    Duh.

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