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Thread: Ideological Census

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    Re: Ideological Census

    i am a communist, i like the ideas but im not naive enough to think it'll work without some serious change in the world

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    Re: Ideological Census

    International revolutionary socialist. Socialism from below. Socialism as working class self emancipation. I believe a feller named Marx called it communism on occasion, but not always.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    There is no single group that can adequately represent my beliefs but I, generally, side with libertarians.

    I draw some of my beliefs from [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism]Distributism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] (Thanks to Wessexman for introducing me to it), [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrarianism]Agrarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_economics]Austrian School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] as well as some other groups.

    I believe that most of the economy should be left to itself, as Keynesian policies requires controllers to be perfectly moral and wise.

    The core of my economic and political beliefs in decentralization.
    Decisions are best left to individuals and they must also suffer the consequences of said choices.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There is no single group that can adequately represent my beliefs but I, generally, side with libertarians.

    I draw some of my beliefs from Distributism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Thanks to Wessexman for introducing me to it), Agrarianism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Austrian School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia as well as some other groups.

    I believe that most of the economy should be left to itself, as Keynesian policies requires controllers to be perfectly moral and wise.

    The core of my economic and political beliefs in decentralization.
    Decisions are best left to individuals and they must also suffer the consequences of said choices.
    Great. I didnt know these things had names. I agree with these ideas, but I think the PEOPLE need to cooperate together to make things happen and to create the best lifestyle for themself, this is best done through some kind of organization like government or church or similar organisations.

    In an ideal world the "church" meaning "faith/common best knowledge" would drive people to the correct choices rather than a central authority dictate(government).
    Private property is not necessary in a society where everyone work for everyone and contribute the best and contribute the most and best they can and will. Therefor I somewhat disagree with distributionism. I believe if we reach ideals that we all know about and can have faith in, money is not needed, just honesty and honor. We can all work together to cover each others needs and add other values on top.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    I believe if we reach ideals that we all know about and can have faith in, money is not needed, just honesty and honor. We can all work together to cover each others needs and add other values on top.
    Yeah...good luck with that.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yeah...good luck with that.
    Good luck when we reach disaster point with our current direction..

    Personally I am prepared for everything, including being a victim og global disasters that WILL happen because we dont change.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Great. I didnt know these things had names. I agree with these ideas, but I think the PEOPLE need to cooperate together to make things happen and to create the best lifestyle for themself, this is best done through some kind of organization like government or church or similar organisations.

    In an ideal world the "church" meaning "faith/common best knowledge" would drive people to the correct choices rather than a central authority dictate(government).
    Private property is not necessary in a society where everyone work for everyone and contribute the best and contribute the most and best they can and will. Therefor I somewhat disagree with distributionism. I believe if we reach ideals that we all know about and can have faith in, money is not needed, just honesty and honor. We can all work together to cover each others needs and add other values on top.
    I could not agree more. Well said.

    Unfortunately people who share that view who achieve any type of power are simply slaughtered by the majority.

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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus Zeebra View Post
    Great. I didnt know these things had names. I agree with these ideas, but I think the PEOPLE need to cooperate together to make things happen and to create the best lifestyle for themself, this is best done through some kind of organization like government or church or similar organisations.

    In an ideal world the "church" meaning "faith/common best knowledge" would drive people to the correct choices rather than a central authority dictate(government).
    Private property is not necessary in a society where everyone work for everyone and contribute the best and contribute the most and best they can and will. Therefor I somewhat disagree with distributionism. I believe if we reach ideals that we all know about and can have faith in, money is not needed, just honesty and honor. We can all work together to cover each others needs and add other values on top.
    Most of these ideas have no problem with property rights but as you noticed they do emphasize family and community(towns and counties) .
    In my mind, if we are to have any type of socialist policy, it should exist at that level.
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I could not agree more. Well said.

    Unfortunately people who share that view who achieve any type of power are simply slaughtered by the majority.
    The problem is that the majority dont really understand or know what they want. If they werent being dragged in all directions all the time by capitalism and politics and all kind of other things, they would probably have a better idea of what they themself really want. And my belief is that if undistorted, almost all people want the same things, for them and others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most of these ideas have no problem with property rights but as you noticed they do emphasize family and community(towns and counties) .
    In my mind, if we are to have any type of socialist policy, it should exist at that level.
    In a society where all humans cooperate, there are no needs for borders, while values will certainly be built around the family and neighbours(/network) first, and then all other people(in totality), certainly not nations or such things.
    I agree it should be at that level, but if that was the reality, everyone should want to contribute so that all other people live equally well. For example, people would be far more free, and could travel the world by foot without money or food, to be received by other good people, who could automatically assume the same back. Meaning a human race who could all assume that we work together, not only for selfish goals, but also for greater common goals(without governance!).

    This is how ideal races of "aliens" are often portrayed in games and movies as a collective conciousness in a hive, where our common driving factors could be for example human exploration, expansion and accomplishment(as these seem to be important human values).
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    Re: Ideological Census

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Most of these ideas have no problem with property rights but as you noticed they do emphasize family and community(towns and counties) .
    In my mind, if we are to have any type of socialist policy, it should exist at that level.
    But how do you account for greed and the pursuit of power. These are realities.

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